The thing is, Zod had no reason to fake anything, because he couldn't possibly have known the Guardians were coming.
And why don't the Guardians at least detain Zod long enough to get word from the only surviving authority from Krypton: Superman.
He's the son of a ruling council member. And simply one of the last representatives, period.
Make it a committee with Supergirl and Krypto, if you want.
Originally posted by cdtm
The thing is, Zod had no reason to fake anything, because he couldn't possibly have known the Guardians were coming.And why don't the Guardians at least detain Zod long enough to get word from the only surviving authority from Krypton: Superman.
He's the son of a ruling council member. And simply one of the last representatives, period.
Make it a committee with Supergirl and Krypto, if you want.
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
hasn't zod done aerial combat numerous times? how come he didn't expect that from Halvery end his son quoting "the battle mind yadda yadda not the first"
That’s what made the dialogue idiotic.
Zod wa the General of the Kryptonian army, this was not just a name he give himself, but a title he earned. So it was idiotic when Hal claimed Zod as an army men knows only forward attacks. When in reality, even the saddest of Generals knows the basic of Ariel combats, because they have to give inputs to the army’s air assets.
Originally posted by SquallX
That’s what made the dialogue idiotic.Zod wa the General of the Kryptonian army, this was not just a name he give himself, but a title he earned. So it was idiotic when Hal claimed Zod as an army men knows only forward attacks. When in reality, even the saddest of Generals knows the basic of Ariel combats, because they have to give inputs to the army’s air assets.
army gens arent really good at 360 battles though
Originally posted by cdtm
The thing is, Zod had no reason to fake anything, because he couldn't possibly have known the Guardians were coming.And why don't the Guardians at least detain Zod long enough to get word from the only surviving authority from Krypton: Superman.
He's the son of a ruling council member. And simply one of the last representatives, period.
Make it a committee with Supergirl and Krypto, if you want.
When he gets up yelling "we are building a new life... For that Lantern Jordan beat me. Is that law? Is it Justice? I say it is tyranny...", looks like he's hamming it up to get the sympathy vote.
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Then later on with the ending sequence.
Supposedly they could have slaughtered those GLs, but chose not to. He got what he wanted without endangering his broader plan. It's like he's playing chess while the Corps is playing checkers.
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Easily my fave villain right now.
Originally posted by cdtm
Being aware of your vulnerable fronts has been true of armies since forever. Alexander the Greats success hinged on exploiting calvery's ability to flank much larger armies in pincer moves.
Yeah but it's difficult to translate ground maneuvers into actual aerial battles.
I mean, look at our films for example. Every space battle is essentially the same as maritime fights.
Look at all the BZs and even threads. We're all familiar with the flight capabilities of the characters, yet most threads devolve into face to face punch feats in a single plane.
Originally posted by Sensui
Let's not forget NU52 Superman (before the merger with Pre Flashpoint Supes) being confirmed to be MORE POWERFUL than Hal Jordan with the Krona's Gauntlet and the rest of the Justice League COMBINED during the Vandal Savage arc.
COMBINED?
Who were the other members of the justice league at that time?
What issue? because I want to read it for myself.
Oh and i was reading what some others had to say about that too in another forum.
Is Superman more powerful than every Justice League members combined?
Originally posted by Sin I AM
army gens arent really good at 360 battles though
That’s not true at all. An army gen may not be as knowledgeable compare to an airforce gen that is true, but their knowledge is far than meager.
I haven’t worked with a General yet, probably never will, the highest was a LTC, and that man when it came to detail and controlling the jtoc On the ground on how to command the air troops was on point.
Originally posted by SquallX
That’s not true at all. An army gen may not be as knowledgeable compare to an airforce gen that is true, but their knowledge is far than meager.I haven’t worked with a General yet, probably never will, the highest was a LTC, and that man when it came to detail and controlling the jtoc On the ground on how to command the air troops was on point.
But in the heat of battle, when you've got a guy right up in your face, you'll default to what you know best, because it's been drilled into you.
Not saying it's a 100% hard and fast rule....but just saying it's not out of the realm of possibility.
Especially if he rose through the ranks. Ordinarily that means he's the best of the best....but only if Krypton was a martial planet.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Yes, Superman at this best is greater than the whole league combined.He is stronger than the rest by leaps and bounds and maybe 80% as fast as the Flash.
Kismet showed that if Superman decided to take over the entire world he could easily do it.
With martain manhunetr and shazam around?
I don't think so.
First of all shazam is superman level himself.E
qual or could abit more powerful then superman and martian manhunter as well.
Then there is the spectre.
He is exist in post-flashpoint dc and doctor fate too.
If shazam and martian manhunter are in the justice league and it's a fair fight,superman is not taking that version of the justice league down.
By the way what about all this talk you see in wonder woman threads and other threads that she is close to his power level and so his green lantern?
You always hear about wonder woman if she takes off her bracelets superman is going down.
I still don't believe that myself but you know those debates.
Anyway with superheroes i mention that are around and villains like black adam,superman is not talking over the world by himself.
Hi is middle level herald just like shazam for example.
A team of wonder woman,aquaman,shazam,flash,firestorm,green lanteran for example should be able to take down superman if they are at thier best for example and not holding back.
Heck shazam and wonder woman should able to it.
Maybe shazam himself.
Keep in mind hal jordan's power level has gone recently again and he took out zod finally in post-flash point dc universe.
By the way i remember john stewart post-crisis took down his justice team too in green lantern rebirth.
It had superman and supergirl on that team.
Originally posted by mace11
With martain manhunetr and shazam around?
I don't think so.
First of all shazam is superman level himself.E
qual or could abit more powerful then superman and martian manhunter as well.
Then there is the spectre.
He is exist in post-flashpoint dc and doctor fate too.If shazam and martian manhunter are in the justice league and it's a fair fight,superman is not taking that version of the justice league down.
By the way what about all this talk you see in wonder woman threads and other threads that she is close to his power level and so his green lantern?
You always hear about wonder woman if she takes off her bracelets superman is going down.
I still don't believe that myself but you know those debates.
Anyway with superheroes i mention that are around and villains like black adam,superman is not talking over the world by himself.Hi is middle level herald just like shazam for example.
A team of wonder woman,aquaman,shazam,flash,firestorm,green lanteran for example should be able to take down superman if they are at thier best for example and not holding back.
Heck shazam and wonder woman should able to it.
Maybe shazam himself.Keep in mind hal jordan's power level has gone recently again and he took out zod finally in post-flash point dc universe.
By the way i remember john stewart post-crisis took down his justice team too in green lantern rebirth.
It had superman and supergirl on that team.
lol.. you seem to think what he said is up for dispute... it isnt.
Superman was directly shown to be quantifiably more powerful than those characters. Period. oh.. and that was a fractured Nu 52 Superman who iirc was weakened at the time.
Also we've seen that of 1991, Superman portrayed as being abel to take over the world if he went evil. Period.
hi middle herald.. lol you marvel fanboys. He could wreck almost any 2-3 Heralds by himself.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But in the heat of battle, when you've got a guy right up in your face, you'll default to what you know best, because it's been drilled into you.Not saying it's a 100% hard and fast rule....but just saying it's not out of the realm of possibility.
Especially if he rose through the ranks. Ordinarily that means he's the best of the best....but only if Krypton was a martial planet.
Yet Jordan remembered he’s training instead of a man of once lead the whole of Krypton’s army?
Originally posted by panthergod
lol.. you seem to think what he said is up for dispute... it isnt.Superman was directly shown to be quantifiably more powerful than those characters. Period. oh.. and that was a fractured Nu 52 Superman who iirc was weakened at the time.
Also we've seen that of 1991, Superman portrayed as being abel to take over the world if he went evil. Period.
hi middle herald.. lol you marvel fanboys. He could wreck almost any 2-3 Heralds by himself.
Lol at this post and my fave character has been fighting teams that consist of Heralds during his creation. So why would I have anything against any of DC weak links.
Originally posted by xJLxKingSuperman also then beat the future son of Zod [and one-punched Zod away] after he had JUST gotten out of kryptonite.
I love how he took key notes awaySuperman was fighting Lor when Zod stepped in. This was a Superman who just came back from red sun radiation and a future Zod who is under two suns
Originally posted by mace11Yes.
Is Superman more powerful than every Justice League members combined?
Superman's power was specifically stated to be above the combined Justice League [+more heroes] in the arc when Vandal Savage was harvesting their might.
