Immortal Hulk vs All-Star Superman,

Their canon but there’s also debate which ones he did as galgamesh claims he did some which was referenced a few times in the comics

I think XLR8 was using the statement/flashback(?) as proof and not the current goings on... Which is kinda confusing because the feat in question is sometimes described as him lifting "the heavens".

Edit. I'm late

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I think his point was that Pak further cemented that Hercules did in-fact lift the Earth/Heavens when he took Atlas' burden. Not that he would need to, it literally happened on panel.

At least, I think...? Hercules' labors are canon in Marvel.

So IF that was his 'point', that was NOT the scan to use... It's anecdotal at best.

Originally posted by XLR87T3
The debate hinges on whether Hercules was weakened when he "fought" Immortal Hulk.

If he was weakened then Superman one-shots or three-shots Hulk.

If he was not weakened then All Star Superman has finally found someone equal to or stronger than him, and proceeds to speedblitz out of spite

It doesn't matter for All-Star Superman since according to Grant Morrison Superman already broke the ARMS of ATLAS and SAMSON when they armed wrestled!

"In a way, I suppose. He did arm–wrestle them both, proving once and for all Superman’s stronger than anybody! And remember, these characters, along with Hercules, used to appear regularly in Superman books as his rivals. I thought they made better rivals than, say, Majestic or Ultraman because people who don’t read comics have heard of Hercules, Samson and Atlas and understand what they represent.

For that particular story, I wanted to see Superman doing tough guy shit again, like he did in the early days and then again in the 70s, when he was written as a supremely cocky macho bastard for a while. I thought a little bit of that would be an antidote to the slightly soppy, Super–Christ portrayal that was starting to gain ground.

Hence Samson’s broken arm, twisted in two directions beyond all repair. And Atlas in the hospital."

From All-Star Memories with Grant Morrison
https://www.newsarama.com/1370-all-star-memories-grant-morrison-on-all-star-superman-4.html

Originally posted by XLR87T3
Right here: https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_medium/11111/111113401/3142278-2037466-hercules___holding_up_i_beam_while_de_powered_panel_color_med.jpg

Originally posted by XLR87T3
The link doesn't work for some reason. Here's another one: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-o6MdDypFPTA/TcHwaLC6ouI/AAAAAAAAEcA/nhYBu6xxjzg/s1600/11thherc.jpg

Originally posted by Galan007
Boy, that scan sure is conveniently cropped, lol.

Here is the entire scene with all supporting context:

-Herc #2

As you can see, Hercules was NOT lifting the earth there. He was depowered at the time, and as such could not even lift the steel framework of a single building.

Comicvine at its best.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I think his point was that Pak further cemented that Hercules did in-fact lift the Earth/Heavens when he took Atlas' burden. Not that he would need to, it literally happened on panel.

At least, I think...? Hercules' labors are canon in Marvel.

So why did no one tell me Hulk was amped when he faced Thor and Herc et Al?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So why did no one tell me Hulk was amped when he faced Thor and Herc et Al?

It was never confirmed such a notion where'd you get that from

When he drained Rulk and gets bigger (you can see his trapezoid muscles being larger).

Huh
I don’t see that. There is no noticeable difference to me.
Wouldn’t the writer emphasize a significant size change if that’s what they intended to show?

You're trying to hard again Darksaint. You wouldnt do this if it was Superman or Darkseid. Anyways, gamma energy usually hurts the Hulk.

You forgot that Rogue did this...

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/38087719/Avengers_2016-_686-014.jpg.html

Absorbed his power and he was still capable of doing this...

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/38087720/Avengers_2016-_686-015.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/38087721/Avengers_2016-_686-016.jpg.html

The hate for Marvel and the love for DC is strong in you. You rival ABHI.

He wasn't amped H1.

Wait so she can't have absorbed THAT much lol.

Which is it? And are you saying Rogue took the entirety of Rulks power?

Hulk constantly draws energy from a pocket dimension.
His potential for strength is possibly limitless.
Therefore he can't be amped by absorbing someone's energy. He can always hold more.

Originally posted by h1a8
Hulk constantly draws energy from a pocket dimension.
His potential for strength is possibly limitless.
Therefore he can't be amped by absorbing someone's energy. He can always hold more.

Originally posted by carver9
Here goes more proof of nukes (that contains radiation and heat) would make hulk stronger. Hell they even say that poisons would make him stronger also.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkimmunity.jpg

Another scan showing that nukes would make him stronger (heat and radiation).
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkimmunetonukes.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
Here ya go with the amp, it was stated again and I'll find the scan for you.

Hulk being amped by a bomb.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkdurability.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkdurability1.jpg

Hulk is Hulk.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Wait so she can't have absorbed THAT much lol.

Which is it? And are you saying Rogue took the entirety of Rulks power?

She was Hulked out. No telling how much she took and again, gamma Ray's use to do more damage than anything. At one point, he almost died from it so saying gamma now amps him is laughable.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Hulk is Hulk.

Lol... you're reaching. You know there's a difference. I'll post scans of gamma hurting him.

Edit

Originally posted by carver9
She was Hulked out. No telling how much she took and again, gamma Ray's use to do more damage than anything. At one point, he almost died from it so say gamma now amps him is laughable.

So no telling means.....you cannot with 100% certainty say that he lost the amp from Rulk.

Thanks for playing 👆. Hulk was amped, to what degree we don't know thanks to Rogue and Rulk, but he was amped.

To say he lost his amp, with 100% certainty, means proving she managed to drain 100% of Rulk's power.

Which you can't.

Besides, I thought:

Originally posted by carver9
Rogue tried to absorb him and failed. Surfer knows how powerful Hulk is so I'm giving Surfer the edge via bfr.

So what, you're saying she succeeded, but only in taking exactly the amount Hulk took from Rulk? Lol.

And you say I'M reaching.....

I'm gonna go ask a REAL Hulk expert:

Originally posted by carver9
It depends on the plot. He has amped off gamma radiation before.

Thank you, Hulk expert.

Originally posted by h1a8
Huh
I don’t see that. There is no noticeable difference to me.
Wouldn’t the writer emphasize a significant size change if that’s what they intended to show?

His trap size and overall body increases.

Before, his traps go up to the bottom of his ear.

After, it's like up to his forehead lol.

There's zero indication he's hurt, btw, unlike what Carver insinuates.