Ziost's Drain - Ritual or Not?

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Ziost's Drain - Ritual or Not?

This is a question for both sides.
Is anywhere a source mentioning that he used a ritual?

The codex does suggest a ritual, yes. The most favorable interpretation for Failk is that it was left "ambiguous," but saying it was his own power is baseless.

It's absolutely not a ritual and anyone who says otherwise has never played the game nor watched the content.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
It's absolutely not a ritual and anyone who says otherwise has never played the game nor watched the content.
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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
It's absolutely not a ritual and anyone who says otherwise has never played the game nor watched the content.

I've watched the content.

I say it's a ritual.

Boom, argument debunked.

Maybe he fed on the deaths of the Jedi and Sith who killed themselves on Ziost(mind-controlled by him)?

Originally posted by Azronger
I've watched the content.

I say it's a ritual.

Boom, argument debunked.


There was a third reason there, but I removed it since it was mean.

You fit under it.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
It's absolutely not a ritual and anyone who says otherwise has never played the game nor watched the content.

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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
There was a third reason there, but I removed it since it was mean.

You fit under it.

Hello there, mister Oppress.

I watched it a while ago. From what I.gathered is he needed to cause death and chaos across the planet by doing his possession, feeding on it until eventually he becomes powerful enough to absorb Ziost.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
There was a third reason there, but I removed it since it was mean.

You fit under it.

Hey I thought we were cool what's your problem bro

Originally posted by The Merchant
I watched it a while ago. From what I.gathered is he needed to cause death and chaos across the planet by doing his possession, feeding on it until eventually he becomes powerful enough to absorb Ziost.

Figured out that too.

But this is weak Vitiate, right?

There’s no evidence that Ziost was a ritual.

Maybe not a ritual. But it seems he needed to feed on those deaths to unleash that ability.

Originally posted by Azronger
The codex does suggest a ritual, yes. The most favorable interpretation for Failk is that it was left "ambiguous," but saying it was his own power is baseless.

You keep saying the codex implies it’s a ritual, but I’ve already explained to you and Elm that it doesn’t. It’s ambiguous.

And it’s not baseless to say that it’s under his own power.

What's the basis for it then

'Whispered rumors have persisted of planets snuffed out through intricate Sith rituals or by way of deadly, arcane machines--such as the device Revan sought to employ on Yavin 4--but Ziost represents a clear display of the corrosive power of the dark side of the Force taken to its extreme.'

The text pretty clearly seperates Ziost's destruction from those caused by rituals or machines and suggests its the corrosive power of the dark side that caused it instead. At the very least it doesn't indicate a ritual at all.

Didn't Vitiate need to feed on those Jedi and Sith to unleash that Force blast?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
It's absolutely not a ritual and anyone who says otherwise has never played the game nor watched the content.

Go on.

I honestly don't get the point of this think. Rituals require already having the raw power required to power them as well as the mastery and affinity for the Force to use them. If the point was to say Vitiate can't just randomly use it in combat, that argument is pointless. Drain is already stated to be hard to use in combat for anyone. I think if Bane can get over that limitation, Vitiate can. No one in Star Wars has a presence in the Force comparable to an entire planet's population anyway.