Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
1) Nowhere does it state it was artificial. The Sun was behind the Sphere.
2) Something being artificial doesn't make it less impressive, which manga1 seems to be implying.
Because the baseline argument here is Superman couldnt have pulled that feat off which is laughable. And that somehow that feat means Superman cant kill Thor😂
Originally posted by Manga11
Because the baseline argument here is Superman couldnt have pulled that feat off which is laughable. And that somehow that feat means Superman cant kill Thor😂
It's not. It is a fact, that nothing we've seen so far indicates Superman would survive the forge. It would be questionable if he could even move the rings. They are large enough to encircle at least a planet. He's more likely to break his arms than lift the gates of the forge tbh.
That's not opinion. That's just a flash fact. Everything we've seen supports that.
At the same time, everything supported Thor instantly dying. He wouldn't even just die, he'd cease being biology and become physics, would've been my hard core stance. If we assumed he was magically able to lift a gate that large, with a great enough thickness to contain the energy of a Star, while being subjected to the gravitational forces of a neutron Star.
But he did it. So I can give Superman the benefit of the doubt. But it is an olive branch, nothing more. A shred of doubt that he could do the impossible like Thor did. That same common sense is also why Thor would probably be able to fight Superman without being a complete statue. It's why it's a good fight.
I get this grinds your gears but it is what it is. Etri said he would take the full force of a Star, you're arguing he didn't. When your stance revolves around jumping around facts...you're not being logical.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
1) Nowhere does it state it was artificial. The Sun was behind the Sphere.
2) Something being artificial doesn't make it less impressive, which manga1 seems to be implying.The less we talk about the feat, the better. The moment it is analyzed, it puts Thor so far beyond anything seen both in strength and durability, a Superman fanboy would roll up into a ball and cry almost immediately.
Even if you added up all of Superman's strength and durability feats from all the dceu movies, it still wouldn't equal the neutron star feat.
The DC Fanboys would be better served just admitting it puts Thor in Superman's ballpark and then dropping it.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It's not. It is a fact, that nothing we've seen so far indicates Superman would survive the forge. It would be questionable if he could even move the rings. They are large enough to encircle at least a planet. He's more likely to break his arms than lift the gates of the forge tbh.That's not opinion. That's just a flash fact. Everything we've seen supports that.
At the same time, everything supported Thor instantly dying. He wouldn't even just die, he'd cease being biology and become physics, would've been my hard core stance. If we assumed he was magically able to lift a gate that large, with a great enough thickness to contain the energy of a Star, while being subjected to the gravitational forces of a neutron Star.
But he did it. So I can give Superman the benefit of the doubt. But it is an olive branch, nothing more. A shred of doubt that he could do the impossible like Thor did. That same common sense is also why Thor would probably be able to fight Superman without being a complete statue.
Superman would have broken his arms opening the forge? This is pure unadulterated trolling.
Originally posted by Manga11Quoting the movie directly:
Lol he didnt take the full power of a star, they opened a small hole and the stars energy came out.More lies by Marvel fan boys, everyone would have died there if they whole power of that thing was unleashed.
EITRI: You understand boy, you're taking the full force of a star, it will kill you?
THOR : Only if I die.
EITRI: Yes, that's what killing you means...
Not lies there champ, just facts, again. Wrekt.
Originally posted by Manga11
Superman would have broken his arms opening the forge? This is pure unadulterated trolling.
He would've. It's not debatable. There's not a chance he would budge it. We can assume that the forge gate is made of the lightest steel on Earth and only weighted a few tons, but once you take into account the gravity of a Neutron Star, the feat increases by such magnitudes, it becomes comical.
To be clear, I would've said the exact same thing about Thor. I would've laughed at someone for suggesting he could do something such as this. But he did.
So I figure Superman would be able to accomplish the impossible to. BUT, and again BUT, this is based not on anything seen on the movie screen. Everything we've seen on the movie screen, and this is a FACT, suggests Superman would be like an infant lifting a Skyscraper. Thor would be a malnourished infant before this movie tbh haha.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Even if you added up all of Superman's strength and durability feats from all the dceu movies, it still wouldn't equal the neutron star feat.The DC Fanboys would be better served just admitting it puts Thor in Superman's ballpark and then dropping it.
I def agree and have no problem admitting it puts Thor in Supermans ballpark. Thor had great feats in this movie and its about time Marvel amped him.
But Superman has shown no limits in strength, and really has none. And now that his speed has been upgraded to be faster then Flash, the idea of "Thor Kils Superman" is just laughable.
Originally posted by h1a8In the movie the forge was channeling the star's power into a concentrated beam. IT HAD FORCE because it was moving and had mass. IT was enough to send Thor flying through space when he passed out because it PUSHED HIM toward the hammer. Watch the movie with your eyes and ears open next time please.
It was just heat from the star. No force at all. Stars don't have force, they have energy (heat and radiation)
Originally posted by Silent Master
Even if you added up all of Superman's strength and durability feats from all the dceu movies, it still wouldn't equal the neutron star feat.The DC Fanboys would be better served just admitting it puts Thor in Superman's ballpark and then dropping it.
If you add up the strength of EVERY single being who has ever appeared in the DC cinematic Universe, including the civilian bystanders, they'd equal his left bicep. MAYBE.
Based on this feat. It would be like DCeU Superman suddenly bench-pressing the Earth. It's like WTF. He should by all rights atomize the Hulk with a punch.
The feat from IW is based on this I'm guessing or something similar in idea. Cool read btw guys:
https://what-if.xkcd.com/141/
"What if all of the sun's output of visible light were bundled up into a laser-like beam that had a diameter of around 1m once it reaches Earth?"
And that's just the visible light.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He would've. It's not debatable. There's not a chance he would budge it. We can assume that the forge gate is made of the lightest steel on Earth and only weighted a few tons, but once you take into account the gravity of a Neutron Star, the feat increases by such magnitudes, it becomes comical.To be clear, I would've said the exact same thing about Thor. I would've laughed at someone for suggesting he could do something such as this. But he did.
So I figure Superman would be able to accomplish the impossible to. BUT, and again BUT, this is based not on anything seen on the movie screen. Everything we've seen on the movie screen, and this is a FACT, suggests Superman would be like an infant lifting a Skyscraper. Thor would be a malnourished infant before this movie tbh haha.
What are you on, seriously? There is nothing that Thor can lift, that Superman cannot. Broken his arms, lmfao.