IW Thor vs Superman

Started by Manga1169 pages

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You're shifting the goal posts. I have no problem accepting both as complete fact. But Etri's words carry far more weight than Rockets which a page ago you doubted. The Guardian's didn't even understand how Thor could survive space....

I said Thor was probably dying. I also said that Thor looked like he should probably die multiple times in his career. Each time he is magically able to recover. 👆

Shifting goal posts, you just told me to accept Rockets word as canon, who said Thor is gonna die, then you previously said Thor cant die.

Which one is it now?

Originally posted by Manga11
Superman clearly didnt, he was in a coma. You are just making shit up now, "Thor is light speed."

This is gone just nuts here.

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Haha, Thor was dying because Rocket said so but Superman's death which was a major plot point in TWO movies, was in a coma? Wtf?

Originally posted by Manga11
Shifting goal posts, you just told me to accept Rockets word as canon, who said Thor is gonna die, then you previously said Thor cant die.

Which one is it now?

I have no problem. Just accept Etri's?

Rocked said Thor was dying. He probably was dying. Thor can die. It's just almost impossible to do so.

I said:
"Thor is impossible to kill at this point imo unless you like cut out his heart or something"

That is an exaggeration highlighting Thor's incredibly damage soak. Let me make this clear. Thor can be killed. Are we good?

I do however think he's almost impossible terminate. Hela turned him into a pin-cushion and was capable of one-shot killing other Asgardian's. He was fine. Hulk used his face as a punching bag. He was fine etc.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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Haha, Thor was dying because Rocket said so but Superman's death which was a major plot point in TWO movies, was in a coma? Wtf?

They said in JL that he wasnt dead, his body was incapable of decaying and his cells where alseep, and the motherbox would restart his body.

How is that any different then Thor basically dying and being restarted by Stormbreaker?

Its not any different, cut the crap. Both needed a weapon to fix them up from death.

Superman lived for like 30 years on earth. Fought less than 10 enemies. Got ko'd once. Died once.

Thor lived for over 1500 years, never truly died (except depowered human Thor), and has killed over 3k enemies.

Superman ko'd by Nuc. Thor ko'd several minutes of tanking star.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I have no problem. Just accept Etri's?

Rocked said Thor was dying. He probably was dying. Thor can die. It's just almost impossible to do so.

I said:
"Thor is impossible to kill at this point imo unless you like cut out his heart or something"

That is an exaggeration highlighting Thor's incredibly damage soak. Let me make this clear. Thor can be killed. Are we good?

I do however think he's almost impossible terminate. Hela turned him into a pin-cushion and was capable of one-shot killing other Asgardian's. He was fine. Hulk used his face as a punching bag. He was fine etc.

And Superman cant be killed unless there is knite involved, so what is your point? They both have insane damage soak, so in the ends its going to come down to whose faster.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Superman lived for like 30 years on earth. Fought less than 10 enemies. Got ko'd once. Died once.

Thor lived for over 1500 years, never truly died (except depowered human Thor), and has killed over 3k enemies.

Superman ko'd by Nuc. Thor ko'd several minutes of tanking star.

You dont know how many times thor had a near death experience in 1500 years or died and odin had to bring him back or whatever else they do, ya fcking liar.

Why do you think they have healing rooms on Asgard.

Thor has died twice in 4 films, Superman once in 3.

Originally posted by Manga11
You dont know how many times thor had a near death experience in 1500 years, ya fcking liar.

Why do you think they have healing rooms on Asgard.

Thor has died twice in 3 films, Superman once in 3.

Clearly not for Thor. Obviously the Warriors Three and other sub Thor/Odin level beings need it from time to time though, I'll grant you that.
Also, Thor (AS THOR HIMSELF not human Thor) has never died.

Also Thor lost an eye, hes not some all powerful being indestructible being.

Originally posted by Manga11
Also Thor lost an eye, hes not some all powerful being indestructible being.
I agree, he's not ALL POWERFUL. But he is currently (after Ragnarok and IW) an absolute beast. Stormbreaker is clearly more powerful than Mjolnir also. We'll have to wait and see what happens in Avengers 4 but Thor is quite formidable to be able to do what he did to Thanos. He also has teleport FINALLY; as he should.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Clearly not for Thor. Obviously the Warriors Three and other sub Thor/Odin level beings need it from time to time though, I'll grant you that.
Also, Thor (AS THOR HIMSELF not human Thor) has never died.

He was seconds from death and would have died without stormbreaker, you really need to just concede this. Its not like Im going to gloat about you accepting this fact.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
I agree, he's not ALL POWERFUL. But he is currently (after Ragnarok and IW) an absolute beast. Stormbreaker is clearly more powerful than Mjolnir also. We'll have to wait and see what happens in Avengers 4 but Thor is quite formidable to be able to do what he did to Thanos. He also has teleport FINALLY; as he should.

Yes he's vastly more powerful after his awaking. But its quite odd that, he couldn't stop Thanos in his current all powerful form who only had one gem.

Originally posted by Manga11
He was seconds from death and would have died without stormbreaker, you really need to just concede this. Its not like Im going to gloat about you accepting this fact.
As I said, he may have died. Perhaps. Or he might have just been ko'd for a while. Again, he summoned Stormbreaker to him and he was still moving, despite being ****ed up. Anyway, we'll never know as it didn't happen and what we got was a super OP current version of Thor.

Yea, he did the same thing when he "died" on earth He was seconds from death and raised his hand to get his power back. But up until that point (on earth and forge), he was completely lifeless, not moving at all. So yea, Im fine with him having a last ditch effort to not die, most people would.

There wasnt that much time between getting ragdolled by Hela, letting Surtur destroy Asgard to Thanos taking over his ship and the end of IW. I think its a great feat but being a bit overhyped.

Originally posted by Manga11
Yes he's vastly more powerful after his awaking. But its quite odd that, he couldn't stop Thanos in his current all powerful form who only had one gem.
He didn't have Stormbreaker at the time. If he had Stormbreaker when Thanos attacked he may have defeated him. Since the fight happened OFF SCREEN (Damn you Russos..) we don't know how it played out at all.

Yea but he didnt have storm breaker when he did the neutron feat, he had the same power level then as he did when Thanos showed up in the beginning. So either the Power Gem completely wrecked him or Thanos is more powerful then his awakened power. But it seems like in his awakened state, he should have been able to wreck Thanos regardless if he had the gem.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
As I said, he may have died. Perhaps. Or he might have just been ko'd for a while. Again, he summoned Stormbreaker to him and he was still moving, despite being ****ed up. Anyway, we'll never know as it didn't happen and what we got was a super OP current version of Thor.

Even if it would have eventually killed Thor, that is still hundreds of trillions of times more force than a single nuke and that nuke messed Superman up so much he looked like a floating corpse and had to be healed by the Sun.

Originally posted by Manga11
Yea but he didnt have storm breaker when he did the neutron feat, he had the same power level then as he did when Thanos showed up in the beginning.
Which just goes to show how powerful Thanos is. He BODIED Hulk like no one has ever done before. With Thor though, it's quite possible (and quite likely) that he was fought by not just Thanos but Maw and others as well..(although only Maw would really pose a threat of any kind to Thor other than Thanos). Keep in mind the power stone is planet busting power EASY, and that's in the hands of someone like Ronan; let alone Thanos.

Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
There wasnt that much time between getting ragdolled by Hela, letting Surtur destroy Asgard to Thanos taking over his ship and the end of IW. I think its a great feat but being a bit overhyped.

Which feat is being over hyped?