Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
There wasnt that much time between getting ragdolled by Hela, letting Surtur destroy Asgard to Thanos taking over his ship and the end of IW. I think its a great feat but being a bit overhyped.
What would be the proper amount of hype for withstanding the full force of a neutron star for a couple of minutes?
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Which just goes to show how powerful Thanos is. He BODIED Hulk like no one has ever done before. With Thor though, it's quite possible (and quite likely) that he was fought by not just Thanos but Maw and others as well..(although only Maw would really pose a threat of any kind to Thor other than Thanos).
So you think Thanos would have been able to pull off the neutron/forge feat without the power gem?
Originally posted by Manga11I do yes. Keep in mind, Thanos was allowing all the fights to happen in the first place. He likes to toy with his prey (Hence the line, "Let him have his fun"😉 It was clear that if he really wanted to, He could have just turned everyone into blocks or bubbles or whatever the hell he wanted. With Hulk though, he didn't use the power stone to straight up decimate him. Thanos therefore is stronger and certainly a better fighter than Hulk even without any stones. His durability is pretty impressive too. With all the stuff that happened to him just on Titan (getting a massive several story tall space ship section smashed onto him without taking any damage whatsoever, and throughout the entire fight with all Avengers going all out he took 1 drop of blood.
So you think Thanos would have been able to pull off the neutron/forge feat without the power gem?
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
I do yes. Keep in mind, Thanos was allowing all the fights to happen in the first place. He likes to toy with his prey (Hence the line, "Let him have his fun"😉 It was clear that if he really wanted to, He could have just turned everyone into blocks or bubbles or whatever the hell he wanted. With Hulk though, he didn't use the power stone to straight up decimate him. Thanos therefore is stronger and certainly a better fighter than Hulk even without any stones. His durability is pretty impressive too. With all the stuff that happened to him just on Titan (getting a massive several story tall space ship section smashed onto him without taking any damage whatsoever, and throughout the entire fight with all Avengers going all out he took 1 drop of blood.
Superman Thor and Thanos are all top tier, Not saying you said this but, (rage did)I just think its unfair to say/think that gemless Thanos can replicate the forge feat, without being shown to do so, based on him beating Thor, while having the gem. But then decide, well Superman has never done a feat like a forge, so he cant do it. He clearly got boosted after his awakening, as did Thor.
Originally posted by Manga11Oh I agree, I'm not saying Thor destroys Superman. I used to say before his power ups that DCEU Superman would beat Thor in a majority. Now with his upgrades, Stormbreaker and teleports, I think the fight is much more even. I'm kinda at a 50/50 with them now. Superman has the strength and PHYSICAL resistance to do it. I do think Thor has the better energy (heat/cold/magic) resistance though.
Superman Thor and Thanos are all top tier, Not saying you said this but, (rage did)I just think its unfair to say/think that gemless Thanos can replicate the forge feat, without being shown to do so, based on him beating Thor, while having the gem. But then decide, well Superman has never done a feat like a forge, so he cant do it.
Its hard to determine cold resistance, because of Superman flys in space no problem, both very cold. I would have to give the edge to Superman as he has more feats of being in space.
Heat, again depending on how hot the neutron star is vs the sun would be a debatable point. I think if Superman flew to the sun he would just sit there an amp. I think if Thor got thrown into the sun he would die.
Magic would have to give it to Thor right now based on Superman historically not doing well with magic and he has no magic resistance feats.
Originally posted by Manga11Well, it's only yellow suns that give Superman strength right? So I'll concede heat being a wash. Cold can't go to Superman though because Not only has Thor fought in Jotenhiem (Land of Frost giants and freezing temperatures/ice) AND space with no problem. But sure, I'll go for a wash there too due to the fortress of Solitude and Superman hauling a ship through some ice.
Its hard to determine cold resistance, because of Superman flys in space no problem, both very cold. I would have to give the edge to Superman as he has more feats of being in space.Heat, again depending on how hot the neutron star is vs the sun would be a debatable point. I think if Superman flew to the sun he would just sit there an amp. I think if Thor got thrown into the sun he would die.
Magic would have to give it to Thor right now based on Superman historically not doing well with magic and he has no magic resistance feats.
But yah, Magic is clearly in Thor's corner.
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Well, it's only yellow suns that give Superman strength right? So I'll concede heat being a wash. Cold can't go to Superman though because Not only has Thor fought in Jotenhiem (Land of Frost giants and freezing temperatures/ice) AND space with no problem. But sure, I'll go for a wash there too due to the fortress of Solitude and Superman hauling a ship through some ice.But yah, Magic is clearly in Thor's corner.
Have we ever seen Thor actually fight in space? TO the best of my memory, we have only seen him in the vacuum of space one time and thats after Thanos wrecked crew and left him for dead.
Superman fought Zod, Doomsday in space no problems.
Originally posted by Manga11Thor was in outer space with Rocket (rocket was in the ship) and he restarted the star with ease. He also got kicked from the Bifrost portal from Hela and traveled through space into Sakarr's portal and slammed into the ground with no damage taken.
Have we ever seen Thor actually fight in space? TO the best of my memory, we have only seen him in the vacuum of space one time and thats after Thanos wrecked crew and left him for dead.Superman fought Zod, Doomsday in space no problems.
Originally posted by Silent Master
You're a liar, the movie flat-out stated that Thor was taking the full force of the neutron star
The movie didn't state anything. It was a character. And it was hyperbole.
Since stars have no force then I guess the full force of the star was 0.
So thor experienced a 0 force.
Originally posted by h1a8
The movie didn't state anything. It was a character. And it was hyperbole.Since stars have no force then I guess the full force of the star was 0.
So thor experienced a 0 force.
For someone that claims to be smart and a teacher, you certainly don't seem to know very much about science.
I never thought I would hear anyone claim that neutron stars have zero energy.
Originally posted by h1a8
The movie didn't state anything. It was a character. And it was hyperbole.Since stars have no force then I guess the full force of the star was 0.
So thor experienced a 0 force.
Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
In the movie the forge was channeling the star's power into a concentrated beam. IT HAD FORCE because it was moving and had mass. IT was enough to send Thor flying through space when he passed out because it PUSHED HIM toward the hammer. Watch the movie with your eyes and ears open next time please.