IW Thor vs Superman

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Originally posted by Silent Master
It's funny how h1 keeps changing his standards for what counts and how sed changing standards always seem to benefit the side he's arguing for.

Is it fair when one chooses to use high end showings for one character and low end for another?

Originally posted by h1a8
@nibedicus

This is a movie. Apparently a stars heat is enough to melt the metal. Stars last for millions of years. Therefore, you have millions of of years of free energy. It makes sense to use the energy source. It does not contradict anything.

Right now, you are debating something that you don't believe in (which is a form of trolling).

Simply tell us whether you honestly believe that Thor resisted outward pushing gravity forces and magnetic forces (as intended by the writer's) instead of heat energy.

The movie stated Thor was hit with the "full force" of the star.

Movie >>>>>>>>> you

Originally posted by h1a8
Is it fair when one chooses to use high end showings for one character and low end for another?

So you're claiming that your changing standards for evidence are in response to other people using low end showings?

Originally posted by h1a8
@nibedicus

This is a movie. Apparently a stars heat is enough to melt the metal. Stars last for millions of years. Therefore, you have millions of of years of free energy. It makes sense to use the energy source. It does not contradict anything.

Right now, you are debating something that you don't believe in (which is a form of trolling).

Simply tell us whether you honestly believe that Thor resisted outward pushing gravity forces and magnetic forces (as intended by the writer's) instead of heat energy.

This is a movie. Apparently the full force (w/c can include heat, radiation, EM, gravity, heat, etc) of a star can be harnessed and focused into an iris via space tech to forge ubertech space weapons that can be made nowhere else in the known universe. It makes far better sense than encasing a neutron star (a space-tech-y colossal task of a magnitude we can’t yet imagine at this point of time, to say the least) to just harness heated plasma that you can actually almost get from Earth+ level tech.

This is a debate forum. We come here to debate, if you can’t handle it, well then, feel free to leave.

Thor's Neutron star feat easily is the most impressive feat of any comic book movie in the DCEU or the MCU.

If he can take that then Supes heat vision isn't gonna do anything to Thor

Thor has Superman beat in deeds, heroism, and feats.

Pretty much

He is also a bigger box office draw than Superman. Dc has devalued the character.

Think they did that to most of them tbh

Originally posted by steverules_2
Think they did that to most of them tbh
Agreed even Batman’s stock has lowered.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor has Superman beat in deeds, heroism, and feats.

I must admit watching Thor put Thanos on his knees almost gives Thor the edge for me.

Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
I must admit watching Thor put Thanos on his knees almost gives Thor the edge for me.
Watching Thor fail and Thanos achieving his goals is amazing. Thanos is truly the best. Batman meanwhile stood over his beaten foe and heard him cry over Martha.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Watching Thor fail and Thanos achieving his goals is amazing. Thanos is truly the best. Batman meanwhile stood over his beaten foe and heard him cry over Martha.

Give Thor some credit, if he'd gone for the head Thanos would've failed and Thanos even said, 'Shoulda gone for the head.'

Originally posted by steverules_2
Give Thor some credit, if he'd gone for the head Thanos would've failed and Thanos even said, 'Shoulda gone for the head.'
Thanos would have turned his head ever so slightly. Thanos is the G.O.A.T.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The movie stated Thor was hit with the "full force" of the star.

Movie >>>>>>>>> you

Yet, that can be interpreted as the full temperature of a star.

@nibedicus
The writer's intent was heat energy.
Stop making stuff up that wasn't what the writer was trying to show.
You can't rationalize real life situation of what you would do in a fiction world.

It takes tremendous amount of energy for us to create temperatures as hot as stars. Energy costs money. And it would cost a lot of money to do such things.

If you can build something around a small star and utilize its energy for millions of years then you will have saved lots of money in the long run, especially if you are long lived (dwarves and Asgardians).

It's makes total sense.

Originally posted by steverules_2
If he can take that then Supes heat vision isn't gonna do anything to Thor
It can still hurt Thor.
But won't put him down.

Superman cut a steel I beam in half with a single swipe of his HV.

It takes heat energy comparable to a star to be able to melt steel that fast.

Originally posted by h1a8
It can still hurt Thor.
But won't put him down.

Superman cut a steel I beam in half with a single swipe of his HV.

It takes heat energy comparable to a star to be able to melt steel that fast.

Big deal, that is less than 1% of the amount of heat Thor withstood in the first second of the neutron star feat.

Originally posted by h1a8
@nibedicus
1) The writer's intent was heat energy.
2) Stop making stuff up that wasn't what the writer was trying to show.
3) You can't rationalize real life situation of what you would do in a fiction world.
4) It takes tremendous amount of energy for us to create temperatures as hot as stars. Energy costs money. And it would cost a lot of money to do such things.

5) If you can build something around a small star and utilize its energy for millions of years then you will have saved lots of money in the long run, especially if you are long lived (dwarves and Asgardians).

It's makes total sense.

1) Proof?
2) Irony.

The only thing you have is your interpretation of what an space-science energy beam is composed of. You are not an expert and you are perhaps the least credible poster in these forums.

What I have is my own interpretation of what the beam is corroborated and quantified by a character who is perhaps the MOST credible expert on what is going on in said fictional universe.

Our evidences are not even comparable.

3) Ironyx2.

4) Giants use money now? They using USD or yuan? 😱

What you perhaps aren't getting is the cost-benefit of putting together a mountain-sized structure around the most extreme natural phenomena in our universe? And they're doing this just to save a buck on heating expenses? 😆

5) The main take-away of Nidavelir is that it is a unique forge in all the universe where the most powerful space-tech plot device weapons in the universe are forged. I refuse to believe that the only unique quality of the forge lies in its free heating.

You know what can get you practically free energy for life? Solar panels near a regular sun. A mountain sized one could no doubt provide some pretty decent heating. Cheaper, safer, not needing you to structurally cover a neutron star.