IW Thor vs Superman

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Characters get outlier "feats" all the time. From what I'm hearing from you, you don't like it so you just want to disregard it.

BTW, he was already beaten half to death offscreen to the point he was crawling on the ground. Kind of a sucky basis for a KO showing there.

We have no idea who or what happened to Thor prior. Could have been two or three punches from Thanos or could have been the Black order. We just know Thor started the movie ko'd.

Outliers are just that to me, outliers. I don't ignore them. I just don't assume that Thor is now invincible because of that feat when just recently Hulk could hurt him and he was no match for Hela.

Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
We have no idea who or what happened to Thor prior. Could have been two or three punches from Thanos or could have been the Black order. We just know Thor started the movie ko'd.

Outliers are just that to me, outliers. I don't ignore them. I just don't assume that Thor is now invincible because of that feat when just recently Hulk could hurt him and he was no match for Hela.

That's irrelevant. We KNOW Thor was half to death before the explosion. We KNOW that Thor barely had the strength (a guy who is close to Hulk strength) to even CRAWL to his dead brother's side.

It doesn't matter if what caused it is a booger flicked from Thanos' pinky finger. We just know that the explosion is a poor indicator of what can KO Thor as even a strong wind could have just as easily KO'd him in that condition.

Outliers are outliers. It's stupid, I know. We don't assume Thor is invincible, but in the comparison of all-time highs vs all-time highs, we should at least acknowledge their existence.

Personally, I think the "feat" is just overly high and demonstrates Pre-Crisis DC-level ignorance of science by the writers. But it is what it is.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Should we disregard the science-y youtube guy, too? He doesn't seem to be a MCU fanboy. Although, his haircut might seem suspicious.

Maybe he's Rage posing as an internet science expert, building credentials along the way to solidify his credibility, biding his time and waiting for Thor to one day have a decent "feat" so he can highball the f-ck out of it. And no one would ever be the wiser. Bwahaha. BWAHAHA! 😈

Oh shit! That's actually pretty feasible...

🙁

I will watch that video after work but if we are going with pure science, there is no way any of them survive the gravitational force especially Rocket and Groot. There is obviously some comic science going on here which I'm ok with. I also have said this is a great feat and would say it is above anything Superman has done. That doesnt mean I think Thor beats him in a fight because despite this feat Thor can still be hurt/KOd by Blunt force trauma and I believe Superman can do that because from what Ive seen Superman has the strength and speed to do it. I have also stated on numerous occasions that Thor COULD win.

I am not the bias one that thinks Superman could not beat Thor.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
That's irrelevant. We KNOW Thor was half to death before the explosion. We KNOW that Thor barely had the strength (a guy who is close to Hulk strength) to even CRAWL to his dead brother's side.

It doesn't matter if what caused it is a booger flicked from Thanos' pinky finger. We just know that the explosion is a poor indicator of what can KO Thor as even a strong wind could have just as easily KO'd him in that condition.

Outliers are outliers. It's stupid, I know. We don't assume Thor is invincible, but in the comparison of all-time highs vs all-time highs, we should at least acknowledge their existence.

Personally, I think the "feat" is just overly high and demonstrates Pre-Crisis DC-level ignorance of science by the writers. But it is what it is.

I can agree with this

Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
I will watch that video after work but if we are going with pure science, there is no way any of them survive the gravitational force especially Rocket and Groot. There is obviously some comic science going on here which I'm ok with. I also have said this is a great feat and would say it is above anything Superman has done. That doesnt mean I think Thor beats him in a fight because despite this feat Thor can still be hurt/KOd by Blunt force trauma and I believe Superman can do that because from what Ive seen Superman has the strength and speed to do it. I have also stated on numerous occasions that Thor COULD win.

I am not the bias one that thinks Superman could not beat Thor.

I never said that Superman can't beat Thor, so I'm sure I'm not the one you're talking about. I try to be as unbiased as I can (well, most of the time, I will admit sometimes I just look for debates when I'm bored) and most of the time, I let evidence speak first before coming to a conclusion.

Relax dude. This "feat" is an outlier. I, personally, don't see it as Thor's average. Tho I will admit that Thor takes explosions to the face better than a Japanese porn star. A Mr. Boomkake, if you will.

If we compare what happens when Kryptonians throw down to what happens when Marvel Cinematic Universe characters throw down Thanos gest slammed against a wall and the Hulk is staggered by blows which don't cause him to not travel very far, whereas Kryptonians aren't staggered by buildings collapsing etc. Truthfully, everything is ambiguous in the films and while I think Superman would win it's as subjective opinion as if I said Thor would win and means nothing either way.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
I never said that Superman can't beat Thor, so I'm sure I'm not the one you're talking about. I try to be as unbiased as I can (well, most of the time, I will admit sometimes I just look for debates when I'm bored) and most of the time, I let evidence speak first before coming to a conclusion.

Relax dude. This "feat" is an outlier. I, personally, don't see it as Thor's average. Tho I will admit that Thor takes explosions to the face better than a Japanese porn star. A Mr. Boomkake, if you will.

Other than maybe quan, I don't think anyone on this board has ever said that Superman can't beat Thor and quan is a very well known troll.

Bifrost Explosion, Sokovia, and now this.

How many feats does Thor need under his belt before we can conclusively say that YES, he is definitely the most durable cinematic mainstream hero? And it's not just energy attacks...he took Hulk's ground and pound completely unharmed after he went "God" mode...

Originally posted by Nibedicus
That's irrelevant. We KNOW Thor was half to death before the explosion. We KNOW that Thor barely had the strength (a guy who is close to Hulk strength) to even CRAWL to his dead brother's side.

It doesn't matter if what caused it is a booger flicked from Thanos' pinky finger. We just know that the explosion is a poor indicator of what can KO Thor as even a strong wind could have just as easily KO'd him in that condition.

Outliers are outliers. It's stupid, I know. We don't assume Thor is invincible, but in the comparison of all-time highs vs all-time highs, we should at least acknowledge their existence.

Personally, I think the "feat" is just overly high and demonstrates Pre-Crisis DC-level ignorance of science by the writers. But it is what it is.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Talk about double standards, all of your numbers are based on assumptions yet you demand we take them as gospel. yet when someone that is clearly far smarter than you does the same thing. you want us to dismiss it and instead take your word.

He has never measured a neutron star. It's all a guess. Some sources state different shit.
He's not necessarily smarter than me.
I most likely know math better than him. But I could be wrong.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Bifrost Explosion, Sokovia, and now this.

How many feats does Thor need under his belt before we can conclusively say that YES, he is definitely the most durable cinematic mainstream hero? And it's not just energy attacks...he took Hulk's ground and pound completely unharmed after he went "God" mode...

That's nothing. Hulk wouldn't even register to Superman based off feats.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I saw the part where you acted just like h1, IE you want us to ignore the gravity/magnetic force aspect because you don't like it.

Because it doesn't exist in the movie.

Originally posted by h1a8
He has never measured a neutron star. It's all a guess. Some sources state different shit.
He's not necessarily smarter than me.
I most likely know math better than him. But I could be wrong.

He cited all his sources, he didn't just make up numbers like you do. all his "assumptions" are based on the best scientific data available.

Prove you know math better than he does.

Originally posted by h1a8
Because it doesn't exist in the movie.

Prove that gravity doesn't exist in the MCU

Originally posted by h1a8
He has never measured a neutron star. It's all a guess. Some sources state different shit.
He's not necessarily smarter than me.
I most likely know math better than him. But I could be wrong.

YouTube video

Originally posted by h1a8
Because it doesn't exist in the movie.

Originally posted by h1a8
But I could be wrong.

Originally posted by Silent Master
He cited all his sources, he didn't just make up numbers like you do. all his "assumptions" are based on the best scientific data available.

Prove you know math better than he does.

He didn't site any sources.
He even made some assumptions on his own.

As I said, other sources state differently about the luminosity.

If Thor with storm breaker had been hit by that star would it have done nothing to him? Cuz once storm breaker came to him he was healed and fine

Originally posted by h1a8
He didn't site any sources.
He even made some assumptions on his own.

As I said, other sources state differently about the luminosity.

Thank you for proving that you didn't do any research. he cited all his sources and provided links in the info section.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOLOBJSJL0I&t=19s

Feel free to prove his info wrong, just be sure you provide all your sources and show your work, like he did.