top 10 in terms of physical strength

@JL King...

Wait a minute, you brought up fts and then under the same breath mention they are limited to planetary. How could that be the case for any of the Z fighters when none of them haven't destroyed anything close to a city? That's if we use nothing but fts. Unless you know of something I am unaware of, have they even destroyed a city? Wouldn't Frieza be more powerful in his first form than all of the Z fighters combined AND Whis as well since again, fts is what matters? Answer this, Frieza was able to survive a planet exploding on him while cut in half but Trunks was able to turn Frieza into ashes with a blast that didn't even graze the dirt up under him. Which one is more powerful, the blast that turned Frieza into dust but did no collateral damage or the planet explosion that Frieza survived?

Again, dont forget to tell me why Goku is even mountain level.

Originally posted by carver9
Nope, not a makeup. This proves that I know more about Wolverine than you do. 🙂

Originally posted by carver9
Anyways, everything I say, I usually have scans for it but this time I dont and no, I'm not becoming a drunk. I love my liver.

Nobody demands scans from you.

If you don't know the exact issue number, then tell me the book name at least.

And for the record, I know such issue doesn't exist, since you're a compulsive liar.

Ok

This thread is almost popcorn worthy 😱

Originally posted by carver9
Ok

Don't "ok" me, carv.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
So here is the question because i kinda agree with what you’re saying here

Yes, obviously, the intensity of the attack has increased. They can destroy the planet with a full powered or half powered kamehameha. But this doesn’t make them galaxy busters. Isn’t the point of calling X a galaxy buster because he actually can do it?

Why should I ignore scope of damage and take statements as facts from unreliable sources/author? Especially when something is being contradict? Why can’t we apply this golden rule to normal comics?

The only quotes we have are planetary, solar system, and universal. I think maybe a galaxy level attack is in there somewhere. And it's all from either Toriyama/Toyoboyo or from Toei's Super which is supervised by pretty much one source. It's not the same as every Tom Dick and Penis sticking their foreskin into the comic character pot. There's a lot more reliability in the statements being implied or stated.

For example. If Aaron next week called Mjolnir a universal destroyer you'd be like "You piece of shit you let Jane live". But with Dragonball there's something to go off going forward. For example with Universal destruction, we saw two hints of that against Beerus. Now with vastly more powerful characters than the levels Beerus used, it gives you some pause to think of that when they say it. Especially when it's under the same source.

Meh. What I'm saying is that these series with statements of that nature are a little more reliable than the melting pot that is comics. There is no normal portrayal, the characters in DB are only getting more powerful or holding back. I'm serious.

I admire Bran patience because i realized that when people on KMC have their minds made up, it is next to impossible to change it.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Don't "ok" me, carv.

Lol.

Carter is just straight savaging these guys.

JL King...

Since collateral damage is your thing, here we have Frieza surviving a planet exploding on top of him while hurt...

YouTube video

And here Goku kills the same Frieza with a blast that doesn't even cause a dent in the planet at the area it is shot at...

YouTube video

Doesn't even cause enough collateral damage to take out a small town. Which one is more powerful? I cant believe I am having this kind of debate against seasoned members. I'm still waiting on my Orion answer.

Originally posted by h1a8

Isn’t this about physical strength? I’m lost. How does energy blasts discussion have anything to do with physical strength? I admit I don’t watch DBZ.

From what I can gather, the DragonBallZ (DBZ) model is like the modern comic model for Kryptonians.

Kryptonians model is more or less that a being's base level physical strength is multiplied some relatively set factor depending on time and degree of exposure to yellow sunlight. For instance with, say, 100 seconds exposure to the sun in Miami Beach around noontime, Kara Zor-el might go, starting from near complete depowerment, from having the strength of 1 normal person to having the strength of 100 people. She might now also possess heat vision powerful enough to scramble an egg.

Come back to Kara an hour later, however, and now she might possess the physical strength of 1000 people. When you ask her to focus her vision now, you find she can not only scramble an egg, but can also easily melt a hole through the metal of the frying pan for you on request.

The intensity of her "energy blast" (heat vision) in other words, hints at how much sunlight has likewise multiplied her physical strength.

Substitute "chi" development and "training" for "yellow sunlight" and I'd wager you've got a pretty good analogy for how Saiyan physics works in the comics, too.

Blue, here is the ft in question. Share your thoughts on it...

YouTube video

Waves get stronger as they travel outwards.

All that proves is Toriyama doesn't understand physics. May as well use Edward Elric using a tiny little umbrella to perfectly block a fire hoses worth of refined fake philosophers stone.

Originally posted by carver9
Blue, here is the ft in question. Share your thoughts on it...

YouTube video

Superficially looks like the feat where WorldBreaker Hulk and "WishingWelled"Red She-Hulk collided with one another and destroyed a planet or planets and/or more in Umar's Dark Dimension.

The peculiar trait of the shockwave getting MORE powerful as it travelled away from Beerus and Goku, however, makes me think the writer modeled this with the concepts of either electromagnetism or of atomic orbitals in mind.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Superficially looks like the feat where WorldBreaker Hulk and "WishingWelled"Red She-Hulk collided with one another and destroyed a planet or planets and/or more in Umar's Dark Dimension.

The peculiar trait of the shockwave getting MORE powerful as it travelled away from Beerus and Goku, however, makes me think the writer modeled this with the concepts of either electromagnetism or of atomic orbitals in mind.

It also seems like the mechanics of this ft is to protect earth since earth was literally right there during their clash. Would you call it a strength ft or would you consider it something else?

Originally posted by carver9
It also seems like the mechanics of this ft is to protect earth since earth was literally right there during their clash. Would you call it a strength ft or would you consider it something else?

I'm not a regular watcher of DBZ, though I've seen numerous clips.

Ultimately I'd have to call physics effects THAT singular something other than JUST physical strength.

Physical strength plus insane martial arts skill CAN, apparently, allow a practitioner to select where the force of a blow causes or does not cause great damage, though.

The following, obnoxious music and all, is a decent, if not preferred, illustration of the above:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hQAfDXrvRpQ

If you want to make the case that Saiyans can make themselves physically stronger through chi/training/transformations etcetera, the episode where Trunks makes himself capable of performing in the heavy gravity training room of his father, Vegeta, might be a good place to start:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zZawRtkgFCE

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
I'm not a regular watcher of DBZ, though I've seen numerous clips.

Ultimately I'd have to call physics effects THAT singular something other than JUST physical strength.

Physical strength plus insane martial arts skill CAN, apparently, allow a practitioner to select where the force of a blow causes or does not cause great damage, though.

The following, obnoxious music and all, is a decent, if not preferred, illustration of the above:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hQAfDXrvRpQ

I agree.

Supergirl would beat both Beerus and Goku, with ease.

How?

are we still fellating DB or are you all done?