Why is Hulk above Herald tier...

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
WITH BFR TURNED OFF

READ THE POST. READ PHILDOS CHALLENGE.

When I started this thread, did I say anything about a challenge. You all are the ones that went off course. I declined his challenge and you should have left it as is. You're still clinging to it though. If I wanted to do a BZ, i would have done that instead of taking the time to create this thread. What I'm trying to grasp is, why is it so difficult for you to stay on track, especially when I make a thread. Maybe if you used half of this time and actually debated what this thread was made for instead of trying to pressure someone into doing a lame BZ, we wouldve been somewhere by now. You sit here wasting both of our time talking about a BZ when you KNOW I'm not going to do it. You're either doing this for attention (that you tend to crave), or you're trolling.

Well you asked us to refute your statement, that Hulk is not above Herald tier.

Our reasoning is that even with BFR off, many in the herald tier could beat him. Even some Low Heralds.

You declining just shows that even you aren't that confident that this supposed trans/abstract tier Hulk is that.

Like I said, put other trans tier characters in Hulk's place. Do a Superman 1M vs Magneto thread. Or a SBP. Or a Zoom, ora Thanos.

It would be a very short BZ, lol. But Hulk?

battlezone is an what?

and I'd gladly debate Magneto vs Supes or Superman vs Thor.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well you asked us to refute your statement, that Hulk is not above Herald tier.

Our reasoning is that even with BFR off, many in the herald tier could beat him. Even some Low Heralds.

You declining just shows that even you aren't that confident that this supposed trans/abstract tier Hulk is that.

Like I said, put other trans tier characters in Hulk's place. Do a Superman 1M vs Magneto thread. Or a SBP. Or a Zoom, ora Thanos.

It would be a very short BZ, lol. But Hulk?

Now we are getting somewhere. Which low Herald can beat Hulk?

Originally posted by carver9
Now we are getting somewhere. Which low Herald can beat Hulk?

Magneto.

I'll BZ you if you want. No BFR.

Iron Man with prep (as you used IronMan with prep in your scan). No BFR.

I'll even do WWH if you want. The angriest Hulk bar WBH. The one who defeated Sentry with the power of one million exploding suns as per Reed.

I can also use Reed Richards without his Celestial gun if you want.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Magneto.

I'll BZ you if you want. No BFR.

Iron Man with prep (as you used IronMan with prep in your scan). No BFR.

I'll even do WWH if you want. The angriest Hulk bar WBH. The one who defeated Sentry with the power of one million exploding suns as per Reed.

I can also use Reed Richards without his Celestial gun if you want.

Why do you think Magneto can beat Hulk? What showings are you basing this off of?

Ironman with prep? That wouldnt be Ironman, would it? Ironman can beat anyone with prep. Ironman with prep is above Herald tier.

Who else and please answer the question above.

Originally posted by carver9
Why do you think Magneto can beat Hulk? What showings are you basing this off of?

Ironman with prep? That wouldnt be Ironman, would it? Ironman can beat anyone with prep. Ironman with prep is above Herald tier.

Who else and please answer the question above.

BZ me. Maggy vs Hulk. No BFR. If you think you can.

So you think IM with prep could defeat Zoom? S1M? SBP? Thanos? IOW, the other people who are above Herald?

BZ that as well, if you want.

I'm not just naming people and you just sit there and say nope, nope, nope.

This is why a BZ is needed. I've answered the question, several times.

If you think it's genuinely winnable, then you have no issues facing me, right?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
BZ me. Maggy vs Hulk. No BFR. If you think you can.

So you think IM with prep could defeat Zoom? S1M? SBP? Thanos? IOW, the other people who are above Herald?

BZ that as well, if you want.

I'm not just naming people and you just sit there and say nope, nope, nope.

This is why a BZ is needed. I've answered the question, several times.

If you think it's genuinely winnable, then you have no issues facing me, right?

What has Magneto done for you to think he could beat the Hulk?

Yep, Ironman with prep has assisted in damaging the Phoenix and almost contained it. Ironman with prep also have a God killing machine. He's above Herald tier with prep. Answer this for me, does standard Ironman beat the Hulk? Isnt that the one that is listed as low Herald?

Originally posted by carver9
What has Magneto done for you to think he could beat the Hulk?

Yep, Ironman with prep has assisted in damaging the Phoenix and almost contained it. Ironman with prep also have a God killing machine. He's above Herald tier with prep. Answer this for me, does standard Ironman beat the Hulk? Isnt that the one that is listed as low Herald?

Ironman with tons of help still failed with the Phoenix, lol.

Ironman with prep failed against Maggy.

Ironman with prep failed against Rulk.

Ironman with prep and with an attempt at weakness exploitation failed against Thor.

So you think IM with prep could defeat Thanos? He's above Herald. Zoom? Also above Herald. SBP? S1M? That was my question, please answer it. Because you're just trolling at the moment.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Magneto.

I'll BZ you if you want. No BFR.

Iron Man with prep (as you used IronMan with prep in your scan). No BFR.

I'll even do WWH if you want. The angriest Hulk bar WBH. The one who defeated Sentry with the power of one million exploding suns as per Reed.

I can also use Reed Richards without his Celestial gun if you want.

You think Reed Richards beat Hulk with prep? hahaha hilarious

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
You think Reed Richards beat Hulk with prep? hahaha hilarious

Yup, I can challenge you and Carver together if you want.

Reed Richards with prep. You can have the Hulk, no prep.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yup, I can challenge you and Carver together if you want.

Reed Richards with prep. You can have the Hulk, no prep.

Reed with prep couldnt beat Hulk.

Then bz me 🙂

BZs eliminate PIS, for sure. So this way, you don't have that crutch to fall back on.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Then bz me 🙂

BZs eliminate PIS, for sure. So this way, you don't have that crutch to fall back on.

Why would we need to BZ when we have Reed with prep being unable to beat Hulk? I dont get it. You're the same person that said this...

"Ironman with tons of help still failed with the Phoenix, lol.

Ironman with prep failed against Maggy.

Ironman with prep failed against Rulk.

Ironman with prep and with an attempt at weakness exploitation failed against Thor.

So you think IM with prep could defeat Thanos? He's above Herald. Zoom? Also above Herald. SBP? S1M? That was my question, please answer it. Because you're just trolling at the moment."

Because it is my firm belief that when Reed failed to beat Hulk, it was PIS.

A BZ would remove that PIS. I'm not inventing new weaponry or tech, I'll be showing that Reed without PIS could have defeated the Hulk. Using things he has used before and is capable of using and inventing.

And yeah, I am the person who said it. When has Tony's buster armours ever succeeded? Simple q. You say Tony with prep is above Heralds. So who has he beaten with prep?

Answer is no one. Is that PIS? You might argue yes, it is, because hey,Tony is a prep god.

So if it is PIS that his buster armours fail.....you see how using him as an example of Hulk's superiority is silly?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because it is my firm belief that when Reed failed to beat Hulk, it was PIS.

A BZ would remove that PIS. I'm not inventing new weaponry or tech, I'll be showing that Reed without PIS could have defeated the Hulk. Using things he has used before and is capable of using and inventing.

And yeah, I am the person who said it. When has Tony's buster armours ever succeeded? Simple q. You say Tony with prep is above Heralds. So who has he beaten with prep?

Answer is no one. Is that PIS? You might argue yes, it is, because hey,Tony is a prep god.

So if it is PIS that his buster armours fail.....you see how using him as an example of Hulk's superiority is silly?

But going by on panel showing (which is what you are doing with Tony), Reed cant beat Hulk. You're contradicting yourself.

Who said anything about Tony armor? I'm talking about Tony prepping period. But again, this isnt my debate, you said Tony and Magneto can beat Hulk. Why can they beat Hulk?

Reed with prep isn't beating Hulk.

Cho-Hulk blows.

That is all.

Reed can pull a gun from his closet to beat a Celestial, but he can't beat Hulk with prep.

Nothing to see here. Ignore the train wreck.

Reed with prep not beating Hulk could be CIS. I mean, they know each other and Reed is pretty arrogant, he could hold back a lot instead of doing easy stuff like Time-bfr Hulk.