Originally posted by carver9
But going by on panel showing (which is what you are doing with Tony), Reed cant beat Hulk. You're contradicting yourself.Who said anything about Tony armor? I'm talking about Tony prepping period. But again, this isnt my debate, you said Tony and Magneto can beat Hulk. Why can they beat Hulk?
Because it's PIS when Reed doesn't beat the Hulk.
Has Reed used EVERYTHING he has ever invented against the Hulk? No? Ok then.
YOU were the one who brought up his armour. Read your own posts lol.
So which armours has he used, against people out of his tier, that have succeeded? Simple q.
Baziermarc, as you're so confident, let's have a BZ. No PIS, no Reed trying to calm Hulk down or whatever, no holds barred Reed vs Hulk, with one sided prep for Reed.
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Reed with prep isn't beating Hulk.
Then prove it.
I will showcase some exotic toys of Reed's. You will then BZ and say why they wouldn't work.
I may combine techs, so for example, I might combine roller skates and a robot. But just because I've never shown a robot on roller skates, doesn't make it impossible.
You will then debate why it's useless.
Judges of our choosing and mutual agreement will then decide who wins.
Reed with prep, with acces to all his tech, no holds barred fight,vs an enraged Hulk.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because it's PIS when Reed doesn't beat the Hulk.Has Reed used EVERYTHING he has ever invented against the Hulk? No? Ok then.
YOU were the one who brought up his armour. Read your own posts lol.
So which armours has he used, against people out of his tier, that have succeeded? Simple q.
Baziermarc, as you're so confident, let's have a BZ. No PIS, no Reed trying to calm Hulk down or whatever, no holds barred Reed vs Hulk, with one sided prep for Reed.
This is the most ridiculous argument ever. I hate when people say things like this. So Reed not using EVERYTHING against Hulk means he was holding back? Black Adam not using EVERYTHING against Superman means he was holding back. Orion not using EVERYTHING against Superman means he was holding back. Silver Surfer not using EVERYTHING against Thor means he was holding back. Hell, every single fight Thor has had, he didn't use a fraction of his abilities which means, he was holding back in 99 percent of his fights. Surfer NEVER use anything in any of his fights, he is always holding back. Has Hulk even used everything in his arsenal in one fight? Cant think of an instance. Yep, he is holding back. Who debate like this?
Seeing a lot of Battle Field Removal (BFR) posts, especially at the beginning of this thread. While I myself think BFR is a good go-to tactic, and would more than likely work in any scenario where elements are given "serious" treatment, it IS worth pointing out that members of the gamma crew have beaten such things before, with the following, arguably, being the most impressive:
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Source: Incredible Hulk #607, Volume 1
Writer: Greg Pak
Penciller: Paul Pelletier
Date: February 17, 2010
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Originally posted by carver9
This is the most ridiculous argument ever. I hate when people say things like this. So Reed not using EVERYTHING against Hulk means he was holding back? Black Adam not using EVERYTHING against Superman means he was holding back. Orion not using EVERYTHING against Superman means he was holding back. Silver Surfer not using EVERYTHING against Thor means he was holding back. Hell, every single fight Thor has had, he didn't use a fraction of his abilities which means, he was holding back in 99 percent of his fights. Surfer NEVER use anything in any of his fights, he is always holding back. Has Hulk even used everything in his arsenal in one fight? Cant think of an instance. Yep, he is holding back. Who debate like this?
So you can't with all honesty say that every Reed/Hulk encounter is the be all and end all.
And it's not like I am saying he didn't use 100% of his strength, or 100% of his stretchiness. I am saying that he has a anti Hulk weapon that he didn't use in a comic, but in a full capacity forum fight would use.
Still not answeriing me though. You brought Tony and his armour up.
So who has Tony beaten with his special armour, when he jumps a tier? Which mid/high/trans has he actually beaten, please, for his failure to be proof for the Hulk jumping tiers?
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
lol really? I've read some reed, and he doesn't have anything in his arsenal that'll permanently kill Hulk without BFR
Who said kill?
And yeah, not talking about BFR, although that already means I've won the moral victory by placing restraints on Reed.
Anything goes. Time travel, summoning, whatever Reed can and has been shown to do, vs an enraged Hulk.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Who said kill?And yeah, not talking about BFR, although that already means I've won the moral victory by placing restraints on Reed.
Anything goes. Time travel, summoning, whatever Reed can and has been shown to do, vs an enraged Hulk.
outside help counts LOL?
I thought you meant everything in HIS arsenal
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
who has Tony beaten with his special armour, when he jumps a tier?
mmm
Originally posted by Baziemarc123
outside help counts LOL?I thought you meant everything in HIS arsenal
Yeah, what he's done himself. No outside help.
I'm not calling on Franklin Richards or Galactus, lol. Just little old Reed. No Doom magicks, or Black Panther or whatever.
Just two combatants, with one guy having prep to do whatever he likes, using his own lab and own resources. No BFR, so if someone leaves the battlefield it doesn't count as a win or a loss. But if one side is incapacitated/killed/dies, they lose.
So I might say Reed digs a very deep hole to put the Hulk in (lol).
You can then counter with scans of Hulk jumping to orbit or whatever you want. Hulk's gamma climbing skills, whatever you wish. And if I cannot counter that argument from you, I lose.
Simples.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah, what he's done himself. No outside help.I'm not calling on Franklin Richards or Galactus, lol. Just little old Reed. No Doom magicks, or Black Panther or whatever.
Just two combatants, with one guy having prep to do whatever he likes, using his own lab and own resources. No BFR, so if someone leaves the battlefield it doesn't count as a win or a loss. But if one side is incapacitated/killed/dies, they lose.
So I might say Reed digs a very deep hole to put the Hulk in (lol).
You can then counter with scans of Hulk jumping to orbit or whatever you want. Hulk's gamma climbing skills, whatever you wish. And if I cannot counter that argument from you, I lose.
Simples.
Show me an example of past BZ's here
