Originally posted by Surtur
Nope I did not, but I know what they mean. I've seen Vox's bullshit before.
Yeah, you clearly did and still are.
What they seem to mean is that Jordan Peterson's views contain elements of racism, sexism and classism. Proof of this: It's literally what they said.
Maybe attack them on what they actually said and not what you imagined they said?
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Which doesn't come close to calling him a nazi, lal. This is like peterson trying to blame a lack of belief for stalin's russia because it happened to be antitheist.(such logic would dictate blaming people who don't believe in stealing because an authoritarian regime killed a bunch of petty thieves).
Originally posted by Robtard
Yeah, you clearly did and still are.What they seem to mean is that Jordan Peterson's views contain elements of racism, sexism and classism. Proof of this: It's literally what they said.
Maybe attack them on what they actually said and not what you imagined they said?
Whatever helps you cope.
Originally posted by SurturThe alt-right, by definition, is a white supremacy movement that takes the form of a variant of Neo-Nazism, damn right that's what they're doing when they say that shit, it's not even veiled.
Let's be honest though: when these people paint you as alt right they are more or less calling you a nazi lol.
Originally posted by FlyattractorSee, the far-right is continuing to foster its trademark racism in the modern world, but the far-left is actually creating new racism in ever-more insidious ways, to the degree that supposed anti-racists on the left will ignore genuinely systemically racist practices propagated by the left itself. In fact, they'll applaud new racist practices and modes of thought as progress, or as some form of equality. Doublespeak, doublethink, doubledo – Orwell was talking about the far-left in 1984, and the reason why is becoming ever more apparent as months go by.
[b]The Left has FAR More to do with the creation and continuation of Racism in this country and around the world. To say Other Wise and to Blame the Right is to out Right LIE!!! [/B]
Originally posted by Surtur
Whatever helps you cope.
They're literally saying one thing and instead of attacking them on that, you're screaming "Nazi!" and painting Peterson as the victim of such.
What's so hard about attacking them on what they actually said? Surely there's room to pick their actual comments apart.
Originally posted by RobtardSurtur never cried "Nazi!" – he even specifically pointed out correctly what they were doing, and attacked them on that.
They're literally saying one thing and instead of attacking them on that, you're screaming "Nazi!" and painting Peterson as the victim of such.What's so hard about attacking them on what they actually said? Surely there's room to pick their actual comments apart.
Originally posted by Surtur
They don't call him a nazi. They call him alt right which is just like calling him a nazi essentially lol.Even NBC labeled him alt right. Flat out said it. So yeah, people are trying to paint him that way.
It’s supposed to equate Peterson with the alt-right(which the article treats as synonymous with fascists/Nazis) after claiming that Peterson apparently distances himself from such views. Hence why I call it a confused hit piece.
There is nothing particularly novel or controversial about Peterson’s theories, which read like a Wikipedia summary of the philosophy of Nietzsche. The Birth of Tragedy traced the cultural tension between the “Apollonian” forces of order and the “Dionysian” ethos of chaos a good century and a half before Peterson.But Peterson’s public persona has made him far more controversial than his relatively anodyne theories might suggest. After all, he first came to prominence for publicly refusing to use the preferred pronouns of his transgender students. Increasingly, he’s been associated with his fan base, which includes many on the alt-right, men’s rights activists, incels, and other reactionary corners of the internet landscape — though it should be noted that Peterson has often criticized the alt-right, and sees his message of personal responsibility as a path out of it.
What’s fascinating about Peterson is not the novelty of his ideas, but their power, and the quasi-religious influence he exerts on his followers. In a New York Times profile of Peterson, Nellie Bowles interviews a devotee who sees in Peterson’s philosophy a kind of grand unifying theory that made him rediscover religion. In Peterson’s interpretation of biblical stories, he says, he found the truth of his sexual frustration.
The quote you initally used seems to reference what the fringes of his support bring to the table, not him. Now it's fair to argue it's ridculous to attribute the beliefs of his supporters to his own beliefs, but given that the article explictly states peterson's vbiews are normal in the first set of paragraphs, i don't see how you can interpret the article as branding him a nazi.
Though, contrary to the articles claims. His spheal about the importance of religious narratives in society(as in that they are literally the foundation of ****ing morality), and his defenses of tradition are absolutely asinine and radical. But frankly, a very signficant portion of even "moderates" have similar views.
Originally posted by Scribble
See, the far-right is continuing to foster its trademark racism in the modern world, but the far-left is actually creating new racism in ever-more insidious ways, to the degree that supposed anti-racists on the left will ignore genuinely systemically racist practices propagated by the left itself. In fact, they'll applaud new racist practices and modes of thought as progress, or as some form of equality. Doublespeak, doublethink, doubledo – Orwell was talking about the far-left in 1984, and the reason why is becoming ever more apparent as months go by.
Bingo. This is what I was trying to say in another thread. The alt right is like a big obnoxious bear tearing through the woods, obvious as f*ck. The alt left is like a snake silently slithering in the grass, a snake you don't even see until it is too late.