Adding onto this (since Rages second reply has tipped over to the next page.)
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
I'll just play Devils advocate here. Debating this will largely always end into semantics. Grammar can be at hand hugely here. Remember I'm not stating a view here I'm just running through each point.1. You could say that the only way Superman knows that the entire Zone is in trouble is because he can hear across a dimension that is seemingly boundless. Which if seen that way would also imply his abilities to hear things is basically incalculable across any distance.
If that is the opposite and he can't hear that far (which wasn't 100% clarified) then you could say Superman is making an assumption which if you wanted to you could say is based on a well thought intuition.
2. On the other hand you could say that the scan itself says "Every creature [b]must have
been alerted to this". In language this doesn't mean they did definitely, it just implies that Superman thinks the battle is raging so much that everything inside the zone must have been able to hear it.===
He can hear Earthquakes in the distance. The term distance is never clarified further. Saying the zone is trembling again,
Again if we were to assume that the zone was trembling how would we assume this is true. One hypothesis is the fact that in this case Superman can hear across the entire spectrum of the phantom zone. Which is itself a feat that is very impressive. But if that was true then he wouldn't have said "must have been alerted". He would have said "Every creature inside the Zone has been alerted, chaos will further descend on the Phantom Zone".
3. Insomuch as someone might say something like "The world stands with you", "The world stands in amazement" or any other variation of them pithy lines. Nobody actually does know if them things are true. Can they really know if a member of an undiscovered tribe from Papua New Guinea is rooting with lets say Buzz Aldrin to have success. We know that this is in reality hyperbole. But it makes for an extremely impressive statement.
Superman I don't think is being hyperbolic. There would be little point in doing so, But if he is not being hyperbolic does it mean that the entire Phantom Zone is therefore trembling? Put simply it doesn't, even if you are on the side that believes that to be fact. It doesn't give you a concrete answer, one might want to say it is a reasonable assumption based on what he can hear, feel (vibrations etc.)
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Like I say there isn't really a way for anyone to be 100%. I don't think Bendis was deliberately trying to write the story to be clandestine except to only a few people who are initiated who "know the truth". Nobody knows the 100% truth.
The only way you will know is if someone contacts Bendis and asks him. Like the time when I asked Dan Jurgens if Superman had flown from the edge of the Universe back to Earth or just from Saturn back to Earth if anyone remembers that. And it was revealed that he did in fact fly from the edge of the Universe.
You really need to contact Bendis to find out the the exact truth. Because it isn't a definite statement either way. Not intentionally made to be vague. It is just as it would be any humans interpretation of an event that they are thinking of. If it had been Morrison writing it he would have worded it differently. If it was Jurgens he would have worded it differently. For better or for worse. Which you would then be met with the same hypothesis. Ultimately comics aren't created for battleboards (not saying anyone said that), they aren't going to say "This fight made the whole phantom zone tremble because of how powerful we all are". Because it would sound like a robot talking (which Bendis has been guilty of doing in the past). Like in a lot of poetry things are written often in flowery language. This is just a regular version of that. [/B]
I have contacted Bendis to see if he will answer this question.
Originally posted by ghostmanCarver is not even the dumbest person on that page. He's the 3rd.
LMAOO carver..........jesus christ.why dont you address those hulk scans a few pages back
The real highlight is Thorbags having been left an incoherent mess where they use silver age colorful narration to cope.
^The issue was published from the late 1980s/early 1990s, almost 2 decades after the Silver Age.
There’s smaller gap between that comic and Loeb’s Imperiex’s story, then there is from OWAW and today.
“Flowery dialogue” is a point of contention now? When did poetic writing become less important than dry, monotonous Bendis speak? Is this a DC thing? Where it only counts as evidence if the words “attoseconds” are haphazardly inserted into sentences with no real relevance at this point? How is the latter any less hyperbolic poetry?
Philo is about as rational and consistent as Caitlyn Jenner going through with a sex change but keeping his dick.
Well, if I will take you of ignore, let's do it properly...
Battlezone invitation:
Thor's battle with Midgard Serpent shook multiple Universes.
Ban for 3 months. 6 months? a year? I'm as flexible as your ex.
What say you? Will we blank out the sun? Will we shake the heavens?
Doth the moon shy away its face when she sees you running away?
Originally posted by Philosophía
Well, if I will take you of ignore, let's do it properly...Battlezone invitation:
Thor's battle with Midgard Serpent shook multiple Universes.
Ban for 3 months. 6 months? a year? I'm as flexible as your ex.
What say you? Will we blank out the sun? Will we shake the heavens?
Doth the moon shy away its face when she sees you running away?
Originally posted by PhilosophíaWill rage bear the burden of Atlas and try to regain his manhood?
Or will he, the retarded son of Midgard, the laughing stock of Somali kind, write a post as long as the Winters in Jotunheim, where he will try to get hell out of dodge?
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Is your brain as diminutive as your body my simple minded friend? This a negative free roll. Nice try, though.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What are you even saying here?
It's very simple my child.
They never struck the World Tree. They shook the World Tree and the Nine Worlds as the aftereffect of their fight, which is why I posted it.
That's not what the comic says. The world tree trembled but not due to any direct or indirect "aftereffect" of their fight. Just like the sun hiding its face.
So....it doesn't count because it's poetic dialogue now, is what you're arguing right? Okay.
So we've gone from:
1) It's not as impressive.
2) It's not what happened.
3) It doesn't count.
I simply said that where it was even shown. Then you went full retard and started showing the scan where its not even mentioned that it was Thor ejo did it. Walt wasn't a subtle writer, when he wanted, he wrote it directly.
"The force of the blow sends shockwaves through the nine worlds".
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This is progress. We've reach the last stage of denial.
Walter Simonson's run is arguably one of the most iconic in all of comic book history, which included an overweight Balder overcoming his demons, Thor turned into a frog in NYC, Volstagg adopting Midgardian children and being a wonderful father, and Thor facing Ragnarok. It was probably the most metaphorically diverse, weird but straight forward Thor runs, which is saying something. But Thor shaking the Nine Worlds with his hammer blow doesn't count because...it was written in a poetic script instead of boring monotonous Bendis speak?
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This is just hilarious now. Keep it up. "Waah, Waah how dare you question it, it's so icoooooonic."
😂 I'll take the former over the latter any day. What a clown.
Yeah, you're out of it.
Like I said, blow ups would happen after posting those scans. Right on cue. 😂
Thor by nature is a "mythical" character for obvious reasons. Many of his stories have been written in such folkloric fashion that it reads like outright poetry. Simonson went extra poetic in this fight with Jormugand. The Midgard Serpent is one of his great foes after all.
To see smart people devolve themselves in such hypocrisy and bias is bewildering. Feats not counting because it was written poetically? Smh... I mean of all the.... facepalm
That's petty and pathetic as hell. So phukkin corny i swear to god.
Hell the last bit of Clark's introspection was poetic as hell.
"This is the moment all of our lives have been building to. This is the moment that defines Krypton's legacy for all time. This is the battle for Krypton."
And the bit with the "feat" highlights the poetic style Bendis was attempting.
"The Phantom Zone trembles under the weight of this fight."
There's literally a few metaphors in that line alone.
Worst part is I posted Thor's feat to make a point. If you take it on face value, it is even greater by magnitudes. If you take it on face value.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Like I said, blow ups would happen after posting those scans. Right on cue. 😂Thor by nature is a "mythical" character for obvious reasons. Many of his stories have been written in such folkloric fashion that it reads like outright poetry. Simonson went extra poetic in this fight with Jormugand. The Midgard Serpent is one of his great foes after all.
To see smart people devolve themselves in such hypocrisy and bias is bewildering. Feats not counting because it was written poetically? Smh... I mean of all the.... facepalm
That's petty and pathetic as hell. So phukkin corny i swear to god.Hell the last bit of Clark's introspection was poetic as hell.
"This is the moment all of our lives have been building to. This is the moment that defines Krypton's legacy for all time. This is the [b]battle
for Krypton."And the bit with the "feat" highlights the poetic style Bendis was attempting.
"The Phantom Zone trembles under the weight of this fight."
There's literally a few metaphors in that line alone.
Worst part is I posted Thor's feat to make a point. If you take it on face value, it is even greater by magnitudes. If you take it on face value. [/B]
The sheer desperation here is just amusing.
Lol. All you guys.
Look, all this happened because someone asked what Superman's best striking feat was.
Abhi posted what HE thought it was.
If all you guys have something better, by all means, post it, rathwr than attempting to nitpick this one to death lol. You're all like that one guy in the group who shoots down other's suggestions of where to eat without contributing anything.