Can JL Superman Tank Hulks Leviathan Punch?

Started by Nibedicus31 pages

Originally posted by h1a8
Don’t be stupid nibedicus.
I have said multiple times that he made an error if he used 10^6k and 10km (we get 0.186Lo).
You can post a wall if you want. It’s just gibberish really.

If he didn’t use those numbers then I’m wrong.
But I would then say that it deceives is.
Why not post the values he used, and not some other values?

"Don't be stupid, as long as the numbers are manipulated by me, I can make it look wrong"

"Provide proof that the claim I made is wrong, because you must prove a negative."

Durrr.

Originally posted by h1a8
That debate is over. It’s irrelevant tbh.
I posted a lower estimate, he posted an upper estimate.
Originally posted by h1a8
He made an error and I won’t back up my claim. How do you like them apples?
He used 10km and 10^6 as average values because I said so. And because those were the numbers he posted.

Thank you for finally admitting how you are unwilling to prove your assertions in a debate and how you are unwilling to admit you are wrong. And how far you are willing to go to do so.

This shows to everyone unequivocally that none of your "logic/science" should be believed without sources/corroboration and that the only venue to debate you with any chance of resolution would be a BZ.

I am looking forward to the next BS math/science you post in the MvF so I can sweep in and discredit everything you say once again.

You can try to do whatever you like. Math doesn't lie. It is an exact science.

H1 you folded like a cheap tent.

Originally posted by h1a8
You can try to do whatever you like. Math doesn't lie. It is an exact science. Until I start using it. Then it's a complete lie. Example: This thread.

Fixed.

Originally posted by h1a8
You can try to do whatever you like. Math doesn't lie. It is an exact science.

You know less about math than you do about science, which you've proven to know almost nothing about.

I know more about math and physics than any member on this site. Facts

Originally posted by h1a8
I know more about math and physics than any member on this site. Facts

That might just be the funniest thing you have ever posted.

Originally posted by h1a8
I lie more about math and physics than any member on this site. Facts

Fixed.

Originally posted by h1a8
I know more about math and physics than any member on this site. Facts
Nah, you lie and you’re bad at it. You get exposed and puss out from challenges. Facts.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Fixed.
please read this entire post before posting. I now understand what you mean. I have some explaining to do. Here goes.

I never lied. The definition of lying is to tell false statements ON PURPOSE in order to deceive. Lying is never just about telling false statements.

I said he made a mistake AFTER calculating the power using 10km and 600,000k. Then I watched the video again after you posted the link and realized he most likely used 10^6k (because that what he posted in the video) instead of 600,000k (his link gives 600,000k as the temperature of a years old neutron star). After calculating with 10^6k to get the 0.186Lo result I still saw that he committed an error. So that’s why I didn’t reverse my statement about him making an error when I used 600,000k to show it. I should have posted immediately after that “even using 10^6k that his result is still off”. Instead, I allowed you to first post your source showing the calculation with 10^6. This made me look as if I was being deceitful. I swear, it looks bad but it isn’t. I’m one of the most honest people in the world. I gain nothing if I have to lie in a debate.
That’s like believing one character wins while lying that he doesn’t. That doesn’t make any sense as the belief itself defeats you.

Here’s my first post

Originally posted by h1a8
He made several errors
1. He claims a neutron star is 1/4 as luminous as the Sun (he writes this on the screen with 0.25Lo) then says that means that a neutron star emits 1/4 the power that the sun does.
But this contradicts the equation
Power = 4pi*r^2*sigma*T^4.
Plugging in r=10^4m and T=600,000k (not 10^6 k) for neutron star in the power equation and
R=6.957x10^8m and T=5778k for Sun in the power equation gives
The power of a neutron star is 0.024 times that (not 1/4 of) of the Sun.

2. The ratio of the amount of power that Thor was getting hit with and the total power output of a neutron star should be the same ratio as the cross sectional area of Thor and the total surface area of a neutron star. This ratio is
R=1.4/[4pi(10^4)^2]= 1.11e-9 (assuming Thor is 2m x 0.7m rectangle)

So Thor experienced 0.024 x 1.11e-9 = 2.67e-11 times the power of the Sun.
Thor had it opened for less than 60s (from the timestamp).
So Thor tanked less than 2.67e-11 x 3.828e26 x 60s = 6.14e17 J of heat energy.
Very impressive.

I other words, I didn’t pay attention to the 10^6k posted in the video. I just paid attention to the Formula and researched the values myself (I didn’t even know he linked to his sources at the time).

Originally posted by h1a8
I said he made a mistake AFTER calculating the power using 10km and 600,000k. Then I watched the video again after you posted the link and realized he most likely used 10^6k (because that what he posted in the video) instead of 600,000k (his link gives 600,000k as the temperature of a years old neutron star).

Realized he used 10^6 after your calculation you say?

Originally posted by h1a8
Plugging in r=10^4m and T=600,000k (not 10^6 k)

Seems legit. Not.

Originally posted by h1a8
I other words, I didn’t pay attention to the 10^6k posted in the video. I just paid attention to the Formula and researched the values myself (I didn’t even know he linked to his sources at the time).

Posted May 30:

Originally posted by h1a8
Lol I didn’t lie. I never heard him site anything. I’ll look at the link in the description.

After SM and I told him multiple times that the video's sources were in the information section/description of the video in question. His equation was posted June 6.

Originally posted by h1a8
I’m one of the most honest people in the world. I gain nothing if I have to lie in a debate.

SMDH.

h1, when will you learn? Making a lie more intricate only creates more gaps in your story.

Seriously, I wish you would cut this shit out. I’d be more than happy to debate you respectfully if you started to debate in good faith. But as it is, there’s no hope for that is there?

Pitiful.

Oh h1 you’re a joke.

h1 is such a liar

@nibedicus

I don't understand. Is that a rebuttal?
Be direct. Where is the contradiction in my last post?

H1 you lost.

Originally posted by h1a8
@nibedicus

I don't understand. Is that a rebuttal?
Be direct. Where is the contradiction in my last post?

So not only are you lacking in the math and science department, you also have trouble with reading comprehension.

Thank you for letting us know.

Originally posted by h1a8
@nibedicus

I don't understand. Is that a rebuttal?
Be direct. Where is the contradiction in my last post?

🙄

Originally posted by Nibedicus
🙄

Everything I told you was the truth. Yes I admit that I'm bias (as you and everyone else is) but certainly no liar. I will not twist math or knowingly use false numbers to satisfy an agenda.

Here's a secret. If I calculate a feat and the result goes against my agenda then either
1. I'll give the character props (as I do for WBH)
Or
2. I won't mention it or not comment in the debate anymore (since I know the truth)

But I will never lie. That defeats the purpose of winning a debate. To me this hobby is a game to win. Iying is not winning. It's losing.

After Science guy posted the formula I went to research the values. I found 600,000k for an older Neutron star and 10km for the radius. I from the values for the Sun too. I plugged in the values and found that the 0.25 estimate was way off. I immediately posted that he made an error. Not knowing that he used 10^6. When I found out that he mentioned 10^6 then I recalculated and found his result still off. That's why I never retracted my statement.

I know, it looks like I was discrediting him by plugging in numbers that he didn't use. This wasn't intentional as I thought I used the same numbers as him. But apparently, either he made a mistake or is using numbers that I CAN'T find in his links.

The first link gives 600,000k (not 10^6)

You claimed he made math errors, either prove it or admit you lied.