Who is more heroic: Captain America vs. Thor

After Thor's character grown from Thor 1, Ragnarok, and Infinity War, this is a tough one.

Remember the last scene in Thor: The Dark World? He was willing to give up Mjolnir and his throne because he'd rather be a good man, than a great king, and doesn't have the heart for absolute rule.

Hemsworth acting in the last two movies especially shows a lot of growth. He isn't as "pure" as Silver Age Thor (Vengeance was one of his driving motivators) but as we saw by his speech to Etri, he is driven by hope ultimately.

I'm curious to see them interact side-by-side in Avengers 4. They both had the best entrances in IW, and you really understood why they (And Stark) are the trinity of Marvel's Avengers.

And after the last three movies, Thor's no less of a tragic character than Steve. That scene with Rocket imo was some of the best acting in the movie.

I think the best way to describe is that whoever you think is more heroic depends on a slight change of ideals. Thor is after-all from a warrior race but Steve was raised in a humble home.

Originally posted by Mindship
Cap, by a hair's breadth (likewise, imo, the difference in the heroic-ness of many heroes). I'm giving it to Cap because, in a team situation, in addition to heroic deeds, Cap also assumes the responsibility of leadership.

IK, but you know, when Thor is concerned people will come with any BS in this forum!

Originally posted by Silent Master
BTW, he does realize that Thor sacrificed his life in order to save people from the Destroyer? that is actually just as heroic as anything Cap did in his first movie.

Edit.

From all the stupidity you've said, this is likely 1st place!!..Man won't even bother addressing this BS!

How is cheerleading going BTW!?

Originally posted by FrothByte
So you're passing judgement on the entire 6-course meal after only tasting the appetizer?

Only an idiot would think an assessment like that would be accurate. You completely disregarded 83% of their character arcs.

Damn boy, when will you stop making a fool of yourself?

Okay, here goes the main dish!

Captain America: The Winter Soldier
-Hydra comes out of the shadows
-Bucky Barnes aka. The Winter Soldier makes it's return and attack's SHIELD, attempts to kill both Cap and Nick Fury
- Did Steve even had a mother to look after him!? Did he even had someone to take care of him!!? Did he even had someone to feed him and love him!?..The only woman who loved him (Agent Carter) was ripped off his arms by time.
- Steve never had a brother! The only brother he ever knew 'apparently died' only to return years later as an enemy known as the Winter Soldier. Now he is faced with the heart-breaking task of facing his own brother in combat.
- Steve rather DIE! HE RATHER DIE instead of his brother who had turned evil and didn't only wanted to kill him but wanted the to destroy the world. Not only that, but Steve actually saved the day AGAIN!

Thor: Dark World
-Dark Elves come out of the shadows
-Malekith attacks Asgard killing Freya and kidnapping Jayne
- The entire Asgard moarns Freya's death and gives her a HELL of a funeral worthy of the Queen of Asgard. Her death is but a collateral damage between The Asgard-Elf wars.
- Thor follows his duty as Heir of Asgard and goes face Malekith which results in Loki 'apparently dying'. Sure Thor moarned him too, another casualty of war.
- BLAH BLAH BLAH, usual storytelling. The good guy defeats the bad one. End of Thor.

Conclusion: Thor had it hard yes, but Cap still had it worse!

Do you want me to go for the dessert!? Man you haven't ate your entrance!!! But don't rush, we don't want you to choke! 😂

Originally posted by FrothByte
You based your ENTIRE opinion of Cap from 1 movie out of his 6. A movie where he was new to his powers, had to undergo the most change, and made his biggest sacrifice compared to his other solo movies.

You then compared that to 1 Thor movie out of 6, picking the movie where he was most arrogant and lost the least compared to his other solo movies.

And you expect us to take your opinions seriously? lol. Fail, Josh, utter failure. This is almost as stupid as your KO definition.

HAHAHAHAHA. It's always usual from you, once you can't longer defend your case you opt for personal attacks and trolling!

Well, it was my pleasure to show you reality. JUST GET OVER IT

Hmm. I'm giving this to Thor. MCU Captain America doesn't actually strike me as being all that heroic. Yeah, he's determined, brave and a good tactician, but he's also arrogant, judgemental, and a very poor leader. How many times has the team fallen apart/been vulnerable because his troops didn't think they could talk to him or trust him? How many times has he endangered countless innocents to protect the lives of some morally-questionable friend? Cap may be the leader of the Avengers, but that is solely due to the plot designating it so. In actual credentials and aptitude, well, he's a questionable choice at best.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
[B] HAHAHAHAHA. It's always usual from you, once you can't longer defend your case you opt for personal attacks and trolling!

Well, it was my pleasure to show you reality. JUST GET OVER IT [/B]

What personal attack? Pointing out to you how stupid your arguments are isn't a personal attack, it's plain honesty. The difference between us is that I'm not willing to completely lowball Cap because I'm honest, whereas you'll do whatever it takes to grind Thor and his kin down even if it means completely misrepresenting facts... like your definition of KO.

Originally posted by FrothByte
What personal attack? Pointing out to you how stupid your arguments are isn't a personal attack, it's plain honesty. The difference between us is that I'm not willing to completely lowball Cap because I'm honest, whereas you'll do whatever it takes to grind Thor and his kin down even if it means completely misrepresenting facts... like your definition of KO.

You'll notice that since he couldn't refute my point, he's the one that resorted to personal attacks.

Originally posted by FrothByte
What personal attack? Pointing out to you how stupid your arguments are isn't a personal attack, it's plain honesty. The difference between us is that I'm not willing to completely lowball Cap because I'm honest, whereas you'll do whatever it takes to grind Thor and his kin down even if it means completely misrepresenting facts... like your definition of KO.

I won't even defend the debate, since you aren't longer debating, you are crying and whimping for the fact that you can't longer defend your case.

And the difference between you and me Mr. Froth is that you are EXTREMELY OBSESSED with Thor whilst I am objective! Evidence: You rarely bring evidence and always try to lowball mines!

Nice debate, although you never brought evidence.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You'll notice that since he couldn't refute my point, he's the one that resorted to personal attacks.

Refute your point or refute the stupidity you said!? Like when you claimed that Odin didn't want to kill Hela!? 😂 PLEASSSEEEE!!!!!

Originally posted by Silent Master
You'll notice that since he couldn't refute my point, he's the one that resorted to personal attacks.

By the way, nice to know you are afraid to quote me! I love how you always quote Froth for help!

Don't worry boy, i don't bite 😂

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I won't even defend the debate, since you aren't longer debating, you are crying and whimping for the fact that you can't longer defend your case.

And the difference between you and me Mr. Froth is that you are EXTREMELY OBSESSED with Thor whilst I am objective! Evidence: You rarely bring evidence and always try to lowball mines!

[B] Nice debate, although you never brought evidence. [/B]

And yet not once did I say that Thor wins in this match. I'm perfectly willing to debate, but it's useless to debate with someone who'll pervert facts just to support their bias. For example, saying Captain America has no mother... what kind of nonsense is that? Of course he had a mother. And saying he has no brother... what, having no brother now makes you more heroic? Are you saying growing up without a brother is somehow more traumatic than having your brother murdered before your eyes?

There's no debating with such asinine comments as these. You can't debate with stupid.

Originally posted by FrothByte
And yet not once did I say that Thor wins in this match.

Concession accepted 👆 😉

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Concession accepted 👆 😉

Now who's avoiding the debate?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Now who's avoiding the debate?

Debate!? What debate? You already conceded that Thor isn't the more heroic. There is nothing else to debate.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So anyone who would give up their life to protect others are equal.

😂

With equal easiness.

Originally posted by h1a8
With equal easiness.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Debate!? What debate? You already conceded that Thor isn't the more heroic. There is nothing else to debate.

No I didn't. I said they were pretty equal since they excelled in different areas.

Originally posted by FrothByte
No I didn't. I said they were pretty equal since they excelled in different areas.

That is just BS. That's your way of avoiding picking a side!

They are not equals and both are quite different.

Pick a side, or just admit you don't know whose better.

I give Thor the slight edge, again. Personal preference but I don't begrudge anyone giving Cap the edge.