DarkSaint85
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Originally posted by operator616
Orion was established to be below Infinity man even back then. And he never encountered the gravi guards directly.However, your example does have some merit in regards to Infinity Man, given that he was able to nullify their powers and IM's power source is... the source/ALE. The same power source the mother box taps into, and it has shown the capability to tap into the ALE although only in direct contact (with those mortals that had it in their heads).
The source also helps with gravity:
Graviton vs Avengers. Just an all around stompage fest: https://imgur.com/a/OmtIGSphttps://imgur.com/GKI0kkZ 😂
Now with thor: https://imgur.com/qLUE2bb
He also easily lifted a city-sized chunk of the earth: https://imgur.com/1zJwwCD
And put a shield which no one could pierce: https://imgur.com/4eMKAX8
Now with the WCA: https://imgur.com/a/zV6VsGe https://imgur.com/a/yWZbJXS
He was KO'd due to a drug administered to him beforehand.
again: https://imgur.com/a/Fekjn2Q
He could also control light waves, btw (which technically shouldn't be affected by gravity unless the writer had relativity taken into account which makes his gravitational powers all the more impressive): https://imgur.com/r8s7Swz
We get an idea of the extend of his powers where we see him increase his own mass/density into infinity becoming a singularity/black hole (technically he's done this multiple times but it was only this time that he did intentionally -- increased his mass to infinity -- as opposed to the other times where he simply lost control): https://imgur.com/a/DxdwiuF
Recently though he's been watered down a bit, when he re-appeared as being part of AIM's council he said that he regenerated from mere atoms: https://imgur.com/FSJjRP9
Takes apart unity squad: https://imgur.com/a/DUREk6i
Puts up a shield which avengers/unity squad couldn't break (including jane thor): https://imgur.com/a/8GKOZzm
Although naturally, Quasar (Avril) was able to break it single handedly since she has a thing for shields. [/B]
All good examples - which still don't really impress me. Of course, the ones with Jane Thor are the best - I am not impressed by the others (hence my first statement of them overall not impressing me much).
Again - Orion, on the Moon, with the AF, is tearing the Earth apart with the shockwaves of his attacks:
https://imgur.com/a/OWjSv
And furthermore - am using specifically the incarnation that was used in the OP. I really don't want to go down the rabbit hole of older scans, which would then force me to pull out low scans of people from that era (that version of Iron Man, and Beast, for example.)
I'm not arguing he does something he hasn't done before. I'm not arguing he suddenly, whilst on the battlefield, assumes his true size and drags the multiverse down or whatever, lol.
He has three ways of winning. Astro Force blasts (which I have shown to be pretty potent, being planetary level even from the Moon), TP (as seen with Hector Hammond), and totally cancelling out Graviton's powers full stop (as seen with Machine Man's parts, in the VERY SAME ISSUE where he is seen to take over Marvel Earth).
His usual MO is to use the AF. Can Graviton's shields stand up to that level of power?
If yes, then on to the next, which is, as he lies dying, crushed under Graviton's successful attacks, he commands the MB to either use TP, or to reverse the polarity. Which nets him the win.
Leo may then come in, and say, well, why doesn't he do this in every battle?
Full Capacity Rule, and General Knowledge. Your only argument could be that Orion wishes to fight h2h, and doesn't want to reverse polarities or use exotic attacks.
But, as shown, when he is on the losing end of the battle, he DOES bust out the exotics.