Originally posted by Impediment
All this hype and hoopla, people, is called MARKETING.This movie s being marketed to make people post and talk like this.
I could totally see the movie industry marketing a movie as "So edgy, incels gonna shoot shooty bang bang", because they're shameless and would sell their grandmothers for a literal quick buck.
So wait, what about the army and such giving incel warnings? Are they in on it too?
Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
A lot of the negative reviews I've seen seem to focus on the whole too much violence/incel/guns/ so I'm not sure RT is going to be a good representation. Let's see what happens during awards season.
Yep. It seems to not follow the media's narrative and so... With that said, it may still simply be a mediocre movie as well.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Awards are hardly a good indication of quality these days. Just see the movie and make up your own mind.
Proof of the worthlessness of awards: Out of all the great indy animations, including Japanese Anime imports, awards shows only recognizes Pixar. Because it's owned by Disney, and has Hollywood ties.
Will watch this if I get a chance this weekend.
I did see a few extended scenes of the big moments in this film prior.
Spoiler:
I liked the tone and acting but one thing that bothered me was the take on Joker. The scenes I saw , Joaquin's Joker was overly whiny and effeminate in his delivery and voice. I hope that isn't too prevalent throughout the whole film.
Saw this tonight.
Phoenix is astonishing. Even when he's on his own his intensity makes you withdraw in apprehension waiting for him to unleash.
The ending leaves a big question though. Given throughout the film
Spoiler:it makes you wonder if
he has numerous fantasies that are shown to never happen
Spoiler:because
his actions on the TV show actually happen
Spoiler:which makes me think
he escapes but next scene is him in what is presumably Arkham Asylum
Spoiler:
he was actually caught by the two detectives and everything after that was another fantasy
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Saw this tonight.Phoenix is astonishing. Even when he's on his own his intensity makes you withdraw in apprehension waiting for him to unleash.
The ending leaves a big question though. Given throughout the film
Spoiler:it makes you wonder if
he has numerous fantasies that are shown to never happenSpoiler:because
his actions on the TV show actually happenSpoiler:which makes me think
he escapes but next scene is him in what is presumably Arkham AsylumSpoiler:
he was actually caught by the two detectives and everything after that was another fantasy
I think we can say with a fair bit of certainty that
Spoiler:
that part was real. After all, a major event that Arthur wasn't present for--but we know to have happened--was a direct result of his rant on the show. Namely, the death of Thomas and Martha Wayne.
Personally, I'm more curious about whether
Spoiler:
Arthur was really adopted, or if that was Wayne's coverup story after he pump'd and dump'd his sexy, mentally ill employee. I mean, why else would he have even hired someone like her?
Originally posted by Senor Cage
Only an idiot would call this a flop. Budget was only around 55 M. Anyway, going tomorrow or Sunday. this will take the October record.
Chill out. The guy is a complete joke (no pun intended):
Originally posted by Eon Blue
One of the best films I’ve seen in a while. All of the accolades are deserved.
I just saw the movie and I can't figure out exactly what problem critics have with the overall setup of Joker's origin. Phoenix's performance alone should have laid theor doubts to rest.
Spoiler:
The breakdown moments when he finds out that certain fantasies never happened were great. Speaking of which, I am convinced that killing the TV host did happen I'm not sure the escape afterwards was legit or another fantasy considering Arthur's in an asylum at the end
For the other plot point
Spoiler:
I'm not sure if the signature on his mom's picture was her's or actually Thomas Wayne's.