Seeing this tomorrow, but I'm terrified when I read stories like this:
Originally posted by ares834
Seeing this tomorrow, but I'm terrified when I read stories like this:
Spoiler:After that though tbh, it was cold blooded murder, clearly through being delusional and deranged.
They make you very sympathetic to the Joker. The guys on the subway may well of kicked him to death for no reason if he hadn't shot them
Spoiler:The use of rock and roll part 2 was weird.
you have little sympathy for anyone he kills though except the girl and her daughter (which you don't see
Just saw it. I really enjoyed it.
Originally posted by Putinbot1Spoiler:After that though tbh, it was cold blooded murder, clearly through being delusional and deranged.
They make you very sympathetic to the Joker. The guys on the subway may well of kicked him to death for no reason if he hadn't shot themSpoiler:The use of rock and roll part 2 was weird.
you have little sympathy for anyone he kills though except the girl and her daughter (which you don't see
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He killed the girl and her daughter? I didn’t get that impression at all.
Beautiful film.
I really enjoyed how Gotham city was treated as a character, and that very bleakness bled into the lives of all the characters, almost like a living, breathing entity. It was gritty and depressing and downright dreadful, but there were moments where the light was visible. Even if it was seen through a twisted smile and harrowing laugh.
This movie was fantastic.
Spoiler:Other than that, it was great.
It did a good job of explaining Jokers laughter (I loved the neurological disease/trauma angle), showing his insanity, and his ability to inspire a following of the deranged and/or lower class. My ONE complaint is that it didn't do a good job of translating Jokers usual genius. He's supposed to go toe to toe with Batman in the future. He should be a better planner and more manipulative. I can't see this version of Joker escaping the asylum nevermind matching wits with Batman.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Finally watched it. Ledger's Joker is still the best.Spoiler:
I found the new adaptation of the Joker to be too insane and no ambition/goals whatsoever.
Originally posted by Arachnid1This isn't actually a comicbook movie imo, just uses a comic character.
This movie was fantastic.Spoiler:Other than that, it was great.
It did a good job of explaining Jokers laughter (I loved the neurological disease/trauma angle), showing his insanity, and his ability to inspire a following of the deranged and/or lower class. My ONE complaint is that it didn't do a good job of translating Jokers usual genius. He's supposed to go toe to toe with Batman in the future. He should be a better planner and more manipulative. I can't see this version of Joker escaping the asylum nevermind matching wits with Batman.
That's why it doesn't have these things you're complaining about; it wasn't something they cared about.
Originally posted by Arachnid1
This movie was fantastic.Spoiler:Other than that, it was great.
It did a good job of explaining Jokers laughter (I loved the neurological disease/trauma angle), showing his insanity, and his ability to inspire a following of the deranged and/or lower class. My ONE complaint is that it didn't do a good job of translating Jokers usual genius. He's supposed to go toe to toe with Batman in the future. He should be a better planner and more manipulative. I can't see this version of Joker escaping the asylum nevermind matching wits with Batman.
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It is too early in his career for that. Near the end you get more and more glimpses of his phylosophy and determination.
Originally posted by ares834taken from the web
Just saw it. I really enjoyed it.Spoiler:
He killed the girl and her daughter? I didn’t get that impression at all.
Spoiler:I guess we'll never know.
She and Arthur live on the same floor and they connect over their poor living conditions early in the movie. He pines after her, even following her as she drops her daughter off to school and heads to work. (Big, big yikes.) Then, rather suddenly, she appears to become Arthur’s pseudo-girlfriend, a romantic win after Arthur’s first kill. She’d noticed him following her and was into it. She flirts with him and he plucks up the courage to march down to her door and kiss her. She goes to his comedy shows and comforts him when his mother gets ill, and through all this, we never even hear her name.It makes some sort of sense, in the end, when we learn this was all fantasy. Arthur imagined all his scenes where they were a couple; he never knew her name to be able to speak it out loud. It’s the strongest fantasy sequence in the film, even more so than Arthur’s imaginings of being on his comedy idol’s talk show. So when the masquerade breaks and he sits in her apartment with rising pent up rage, you’re not sure if he’s going to attack her for not being the girl of his fantasies. He leaves her and Zazie is dropped for the rest of the movie. Does Arthur take his revenge? Unclear. In two hours, we learn nothing about her except she’s his neighbor and she has a daughter. We can’t even be sure of her fate.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Finally watched it. Ledger's Joker is still the best.Spoiler:
I found the new adaptation of the Joker to be too insane and no ambition/goals whatsoever.
Yeah definitely not the best adaptation of the Joker. But I still appreciated it as an artistic character piece based on the iconic villain.
Plus... damn it was just an insane film.