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Originally posted by playa1258Yea, I didn't think the movie would be huge, but I knew it would be well acted. Joaquin Phoenix is probably one of the top 5 actors working.
No one expected it to be this big. Could mean good things for Batman in 2021.People are curious about that film like they are this one.
I haven't been a huge fan of anything Reeves has done, but the cast right now is really strong.
Originally posted by Darth ThorThat's impressive on a 55 million budget I thought maybe 400 world wide would be tops with the R rating and all. I don't see it beating Venom for top villain movie(if you call Venom a villain) which has over 800 million without looking it up I think. As you said it's out in all major markets but either way it's a huge win to WB.
^ Not scheduled to.737million world wide. 800mill should be a lock. Which will make it the biggest R rated film of all time.
Think 1 bill might be a bit much though given its been out in all its scheduled markets for a couple of weeks now.
Jokers success might help Birds of Prey which I think is going to need all the help it can get. Even with them being in separate universes...that we know of...
Originally posted by juggernaut74
That's impressive on a 55 million budget I thought maybe 400 world wide would be tops with the R rating and all. I don't see it beating Venom for top villain movie(if you call Venom a villain) which has over 800 million without looking it up I think. As you said it's out in all major markets but either way it's a huge win to WB.Jokers success might help Birds of Prey which I think is going to need all the help it can get. Even with them being in separate universes...that we know of...
Doesnt surprise me too much, given Deadpools already having proven the potential of an R rated comic book film (also without a China release). Not to take away from this. Its success is HUGE.
Hmm not sure about BOP. This always had more talk from day 1.
Golgo is probably right about it beating Venom once all is said and done.
Funny thing is neither this, Deadpool or Venom were Marvel Proer films. Although technically Deadpool is theirs now.
Originally posted by Senor CageI hope so as Joker is the top dog amongst the bad guys.
900 is a lock, not 800. It'll beat Venom for sure.
Originally posted by Darth ThorI think Birds of Prey is R rated also so I think that will work against the film.
Doesnt surprise me too much, given Deadpools already having proven the potential of an R rated comic book film (also without a China release). Not to take away from this. Its success is HUGE.Hmm not sure about BOP. This always had more talk from day 1.
Golgo is probably right about it beating Venom once all is said and done.
Funny thing is neither this, Deadpool or Venom were Marvel Proer films. Although technically Deadpool is theirs now.
What did you think of the Joker 2019 movie?
I was skeptical of the movie at first. I debated whether or not i should watch it. I used to think the Joker didn't need an origin story because i felt he was more mysterious that way. When i thought about it, he had one in the Killing Joke so he’s not that mysterious. That's why i watched Joker, even if i wished another villain would have his/her own movie. I didn’t think this movie’s Joker would be on the same level as Heath Ledger’s Joker. Nonetheless, i gave it a try.
I was mind-blown by this movie and my expectations were blown away. This movie tackled some deep issues like society's hypocrisy, lies about equality, child abuse, mental illness, etc. I was shocked at some scenes which crossed some boundaries. What made this movie great was how it didn't just tell the story of how a crook fell in a vat of chemicals and became the Joker. It made me think about alot. It had loads of emotion and some ambiguity. When the Joker laughs after a tragedy, its hard to tell if he's laughing or crying.
The scenes about mental illness spoke some harsh truths about how mentally ill people are treated today. Hence, why Arthur Fleck wrote in his notebook “the worst part about mental illness is people expecting you to behave as if you don’t have one.” Arthur Fleck tried hard to get help for his mental illness, but it seemed like society showed no support. They don’t want to acknowledge mental illness exists much less understand it. It’s as if people just want the mentally ill to be locked up in a mental institution and be done with it.
It also had some harsh truths about equality. Society cares more about status than about equality. The poor are expendable.
People criticized it for its violence, but i think they were disturbed. Because there was no Batman, we had no one to look to as a savior. The movie forced us to look at ourselves and our relationship to people like the Joker. It raises disturbing questions like how much of a role we play in creating someone like the Joker and how accurate are his perceptions? Throughout the film, it was hard to tell if the Joker was seeing things correctly or just being delusional.
People criticized the film for this Joker not fully embracing the evil and chaos in him like say Heath Ledger’s Joker. I don’t think this criticism is valid. People forget this is a different Joker before he became THE Joker. That’s why its an origin story. I was about to criticize this Joker for his lack of clever punchlines and criminal schemes, but realized that’s the point. The Joker was a failed comedian trying to get by in the world. He didn’t have any intent to turn to a life of crime. We see a very vulnerable side of the Joker that’s not there in most Batman films.
I loved the original soundtrack. It reminded me alot of the theme of the Dark Knight live action franchise. I thought the song “smile” by Jimmy Durante was iconic and perfect for the film.
It had some flaws. I disliked how the laughing and references to Taxi driver were a bit overdone. I also thought the Joker’s love interest didn’t need to be there. It was not how i imagined it would be. I thought the comic’s version of the Joker’s wife made more of an impact than Joker’s girlfriend. I thought the film could’ve been much darker had it taken a different approach with his love interest based on the comics. I disliked how some songs like those of Frank Sinatra didn’t fit well with the theme of the film. I didn’t think the song “smile” was placed in its proper scene. It could’ve been better.
Perhaps the movie’s biggest flaw was how it focused too much on the Joker’s mental illness rather than his emotional turmoil. I was expecting to see a blend of emotions and mental illness. Lots of people have already included hallucinations or the “reality vs. fantasy” motif in films on mental illness. It’s become too cliche. The film could’ve been more powerful if it stuck to creating drama while balancing out the Joker’s mental illness.
Originally posted by juggernaut74I don't really see how this will help BoP, but it'll probably help the new Batman movie.
That's impressive on a 55 million budget I thought maybe 400 world wide would be tops with the R rating and all. I don't see it beating Venom for top villain movie(if you call Venom a villain) which has over 800 million without looking it up I think. As you said it's out in all major markets but either way it's a huge win to WB.Jokers success might help Birds of Prey which I think is going to need all the help it can get. Even with them being in separate universes...that we know of...
Tbh, this movie shouldn't help any of the other DC movies unless they're gonna try to act like this is the direction that they're trying to take their universe, which is doubtful. Having said that, I'm looking forward to the new Batman movie; I like Pattinson and Wright.