Gladiator Vs Lobo

I'm really legit curious as to how people interpret that scene. For years that feat has been peddled by Abhi as a holy shiet type of feat. He brings it out every now and then and some people go oooh ahhh (w/some ejaculation involved) because he usually presents it simply as Superman literally tugging a huge ship, along with the earth/moon system.

Maybe it's just me, but the way it was presented, it ranks up there with the classic non feats. Maybe the best fans can hope for is that Byrne Supes survived a space warp while tugging something "sort of heavy"?

I don't see it as a pure strength feat. It's unquantifiable, to me.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I'm really legit curious as to how people interpret that scene. For years that feat has been peddled by Abhi as a holy shiet type of feat. He brings it out every now and then and some people go oooh ahhh (w/some ejaculation involved) because he usually presents it simply as Superman literally tugging a huge ship, along with the earth/moon system.

Maybe it's just me, but the way it was presented, it ranks up there with the classic non feats. Maybe the best fans can hope for is that Byrne Supes survived a space warp while tugging something "sort of heavy"?

This is retarded. Superman admits he cant move worlds but ABHI is neglecting common sense. Let it been Thor saying this or Surfer, ABHI would ride that statement until the end of KMC existence. He's a hypocrite.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I'm really legit curious as to how people interpret that scene. For years that feat has been peddled by Abhi as a holy shiet type of feat. He brings it out every now and then and some people go oooh ahhh (w/some ejaculation involved) because he usually presents it simply as Superman literally tugging a huge ship, along with the earth/moon system.

Maybe it's just me, but the way it was presented, it ranks up there with the classic non feats. Maybe the best fans can hope for is that Byrne Supes survived a space warp while tugging something "sort of heavy"?

It's not a ft. At all.

If we're talking about Pre Flashpoint Superman entire continuity, he ARGUABLY has about 2 feats that's above planetary without taking it out of context.

Most feats you see from Superman that people argue it's skyfather, or "solar system level" or so it's the usual known out of context ones that's been recycled and destroyed on forums like the holding black hole feat, and source wall for example

The guy is consistently portrayed as a planetary force threat at his highest, and that's coming from someone whos read ALOT of his issues including his solo

Originally posted by carver9
This is retarded. Superman admits he cant move worlds but ABHI is neglecting common sense. Let it been Thor saying this or Surfer, ABHI would ride that statement until the end of KMC existence. He's a hypocrite.

Superman didn't know how powerful he was Post Crisis,and his powers are based on his mental state, as Byrne showed time and time again, and outright stated.

Originally posted by panthergod
Superman didn't know how powerful he was Post Crisis,and his powers are based on his mental state, as Byrne showed time and time again, and outright stated.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Did you really just make that up?

No. It's a subplot of his entire run regarding Superman's power. Not up for debate.

Originally posted by panthergod
Superman didn't know how powerful he was Post Crisis,and his powers are based on his mental state, as Byrne showed time and time again, and outright stated.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
@panthergod, that's an absolute made up lie. Prove it right now, I've read more Superman than you and have never heard about anything like that

All you're proven is that you don't read Superman comics, or are a hilariously poor reader. And that's ok.

Yes, This scene was meant to display Earth-Moon system power via implication. It's laughable that people are still pretending.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Based SOLELY on Abhi's descriptions, I'm figuring the following thus far....

The ship, it's longer than the moon, it's also somewhat hollow, it also doesn't have the same volume as the moon.

Check it (rough calculations):

Volume of Moon = 4/3 x pi x r^3 = 4.187 x 1079.5 miles ^3 = 5 266 672 639 cubic miles.

Volume of Space Ship = 3.14 x r^2 x length = 3.14 x 300 mile radius x 3000 miles long = 847 800 000 cubic miles.

Assuming I have all of the calculations correct, the Moon has a volume about 6.5 times greater than the ship. The moon is also solid, the ship is not. Granted, the ship is probably made of heavier material, but realistically, the ship isn't going to be quite the same mass as the moon, unless the comic states such.

When he says 'Cannibalized an entire system's resources', he's talking about building a ship that size...which is presumably made of metals, various rare earths, and other things. But not all of the carbon, the silica, and other things that make up a system are going into the ship. Basically, it doesn't weigh as much as a whole system (impossible, anyway, if it's only a little bigger than the moon and not made of depleted uranium or something).

Then address this Panthergod

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
If we're talking about Pre Flashpoint Superman entire continuity, he ARGUABLY has about 2 feats that's above planetary without taking it out of context.

Most feats you see from Superman that people argue it's skyfather, or "solar system level" or so it's the usual known out of context ones that's been recycled and destroyed on forums like the holding black hole feat, and source wall for example

The guy is consistently portrayed as a planetary force threat at his highest, and that's coming from someone whos read ALOT of his issues including his solo

Superman contained solar system destroying force in that black hole example. Again-- not up for debate to us literate people.

You read virtually no Superman comics to make that claim at this point, kid.

Originally posted by Baziemarc123
Then address this Panthergod

I couldn't possibly care less about your fabrications.

Superman actually didn't contain anything, but i'll save that argument for another time.

Hopefully you don't put me on ignore when I destroy that notion

Originally posted by panthergod
I couldn't possibly care less about your fabrications.

concession accepted then

Lol

During Bryne's Era, Superman was nowhere near that powerful to actually accomplish a feat like that, He powered up later, following his 'death' at the hands of Doomsday.

Byrne, the creator of the Post-Crisis Superman:

Superman's power-level is detemined by his Force of Will:

Superman's powerlevels go down and up again due to his mind:

Wolfman and Ordway

While unconscious he's invulnerable, while awake(with amnesia thus forgetting his powers) he goes down to being hurt by firel:

Superman's holding back factor is not simple him pulling his punches, when he access his internal powers he gets more durable, etc.

He regains his power-levels-- due to beleieving he's mroe powerful thanks to Darkseid;s mental influence:

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/MentalRegulations1.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/MentalRegulations2.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/MentalRegulations3.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/MentalRegulations4.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/MentalRegulations5.jpg
http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx28/PhilosophiaKMC/MentalRegulations6.jpg

..Well yeah that's what happens when every hero stops holding back...