Originally posted by Robtard
You really do go soft on one side; it just happens to be the Nazis...
Lol no I don't. It's not going soft on them to acknowledge Antifa does exactly what the nazis want them to do. They love to play the victim just as much as the left does. In this case attacking them fuels their cause far more than ignoring them does.
Originally posted by Robtard
Seems you're unable to understand what he's saying. He's saying violence isn't right(that right there destroys your narrative alone), but he understands why people would fight against Nazis. He even went later to more fully verbalize this with the 'violence begets violence' post.Do you really not understand why some people would fight against a historically violent and incendiary group like the Nazis?
I understand exactly what he said, your interpretation is solely for your justifying a position.
Seriously stop the games. Antifa lends itself to violence, that doesn't mean the alt right is less violent. It means they both use violence if they feel it helps their cause.
I also want to note that the term Nazi is thrown around by Antifa to anyone that opposes them, its not an accurate gauge of ideologies of those they protest.
Originally posted by snowdragonSeriously stop the games. Antifa lends itself to violence, that doesn't mean the alt right is less violent. It means they both use violence if they feel it helps their cause.
You're now phrasing your post like I disagree. When I've said the same. If that was intentional, shame on you, sir.
Originally posted by Surtur
When it comes to the modern day "nazis" in this country it is hard to understand why people are stupid enough to go get violent against them cuz they're whining and marching. This is not the frickin Third Reich.Communists whining about nazis also is just adorable.
So no, you do not understand why some people would fight against a historically violent and incendiary group like the Nazis. /Noted
Originally posted by Robtard
You're now phrasing your post like I disagree. When I've said the same. If that was intentional, shame on you, sir.
I never said you disagree, I said you lend yourself to the side that you oppose and tend to be "softer" when focusing on those you oppose.
No shame required, that's how your posts go.
Now I realize not all Antifa folks believe in communism but the fact is communism has killed FAR FAR more people the Nazis have, that's a scary fact when you believe one is fighting an oppressive group.
Originally posted by snowdragon
I never said you disagree, I said you lend yourself to the side that you oppose and tend to be "softer" when focusing on those you oppose.No shame required, that's how your posts go.
Now I realize not all Antifa folks believe in communism but the fact is communism has killed FAR FAR more people the Nazis have, that's a scary fact when you believe one is fighting an oppressive group.
I do? News to me. Cos I've condemned the violence each and every time.
You really just seem to want to libel me here. It's also curious that you do this cos I'm so unapologetically anti Nazi... They're murderers, you're aware of that, yeah?
Okay. I'm not pro Communis either...
Originally posted by darthgoober
Then why do seem so upset about people wanting Antifa to be made a priority before they become as much of a problem as they are in Europe?
Probably because that's another thing you've imagined me doing?
Also of note, flip that around with Nazis/White Supremacist: Then why do seem so upset about people wanting Nazis to be made a priority before they become as much of a problem as they were/are in Europe?
Cos there's precedent.
Originally posted by Robtard
I do? News to me. Cos I've condemned the violence each and every time.You really just seem to want to libel me here. It's also curious that you do this cos I'm so unapologetically anti Nazi... They're murderers, you're aware of that, yeah?
Okay. I'm not pro Communis either...
It's not libel to say that when you post you favor the left. You tend to attack the right far more often. You tend to have a softer tone when you acknowledge violence done by one side and you tend to defend that by bringing up violence done by the other.
Being Anti Nazi has NOTHING to do with acknowledging violence and giving both sides its due.
Like I said if antifa were to follow its roots then its communism, and history has shown us they are worse then nazi's! That doesn't excuse nazis, it also doesn't help that they battle cry for antifa is anti nazi, so if they pick you as a group they oppose you gain the title whether it was deserved or not.
Originally posted by Robtard
Probably because that's another thing you've imagined me doing?Also of note, flip that around with Nazis/White Supremacist: Then why do seem so upset about people wanting Nazis to be made a priority before they become as much of a problem as they were/are in Europe?
Cos there's precedent.
Originally posted by snowdragon
It's not libel to say that when you post you favor the left. You tend to attack the right far more often. You tend to have a softer tone when you acknowledge violence done by one side and you tend to defend that by bringing up violence done by the other.Being Anti Nazi has NOTHING to do with acknowledging violence and giving both sides its due.
Like I said if antifa were to follow its roots then its communism, and history has shown us they are worse then nazi's! That doesn't excuse nazis, it also doesn't help that they battle cry for antifa is anti nazi, so if they pick you as a group they oppose you gain the title whether it was deserved or not.
You're conflating the violence/anarchy causers and "the Left", when that's both lazy and dishonest. I'll defend "the Left", sure. eg the people who protest the Nazis with signs and what not; I don't defend the mask wearing fools throwing cans and whatnot.
Now Antifa are Communist and worse than Nazis? Um, seems you're doing what you accuse me of.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Nazi's are a priority, they've been a priority for a long time now. That's why when they publicly organize they're generally careful to tow the line in regards to staying inside the bounds of the law. They keep their rhetoric just inside the bounds of what's legal, because they know they'll be quickly shut down if they give the cops an excuse to do so. Antifa steps beyond those bounds frequently because they know most people DON'T consider them to be a priority.
Tell that to Heather Heyer. Tell that to all the murder victims of White Supremacist violence.
Originally posted by Robtard
You're conflating the violence/anarchy causers and "the Left", when that's both lazy and dishonest. I'll defend "the Left", sure. eg the people who protest the Nazis with signs and what not; I don't defend the mask wearing fools throwing cans and whatnot.Now Antifa are Communist and worse than Nazis? Um, seems you're doing what you accuse me of.