Who would be a bigger threat: Thor vs. Superman

Originally posted by h1a8
You told an untruth. You said Thor was uninjured by FAR GREATER. They are comparable attacks.
None of those attacks were far greater. The word, "far" makes the statement untrue.
I'll give you that he wasn't injured when hit in the face though.

If you see the punch that caused Thor's nose to bleed then you see they are comparable.

Look at 2:01

No untruths, But if you seriously consider a simple jab as equal to being hit with a massive hammer, a foot plant, being rag-dolled and beaten against the ground and then hammer-fisted in the face while you're prone, you're probably retarded.

Khan with his Boolean gun.

Originally posted by playa1258
Khan with his Boolean gun.

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Using h1's logic.

Superman has never been shown to withstand being hit by a paintball. Thus paintballs would injure Superman.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Using h1's logic.

Superman has never been shown to withstand being hit by a paintball. Thus paintballs would injure Superman.

Bullets >>> paintballs
Facts!

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
There is no evidence that Thor can withstand Aircraft bullets. But come on H1!!!! He can definetly survive them. We've seen him surviving worse.

I see you don't know how powerful aircraft bullets are. Enlighten me. What's worst than those?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Actually you've got it backwards. Aircraft bullets have no feats to prove they can penetrate someone as durable as Thor, thus you need to provide proof for this.

Yeah they do. Aircraft bullets have plenty of feats. Going through 1in solid steel like tissue paper, etc.
But I'll calculate the power of them (better than any feat). Just hold on.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
If they went all the way through him (like a hot knife through butter as you put it) hed be dead. Duh.

So he took it fine. He didnt even once say ouch.

And yet Thors durability was >>> than an upgraded version of that suit. Heck Thor > an upgraded version that was further amped by 400%.

Try using logic and common sense please over your clear bias against Marvel and butthurt over Thors on screen power levels.

Movie logic. There were holes in him though. maybe the bullets missed?
Thor's durability being greater is irrelevant (moving the goalposts).
Yet no proof that aircraft bullets will bounce off him.

Originally posted by Robtard
No untruths, But if you seriously consider a simple jab as equal to being hit with a massive hammer, a foot plant, being rag-dolled and beaten against the ground and then hammer-fisted in the face while you're prone, you're probably retarded.

But you said "FAR" greater. It's clear that's an untruth.

Are you looking at the numbers of times Thor was hit? Or the force his face (not chest or shield) was hit with in comparison to the first Hulk fight?

The point

h1

Originally posted by h1a8

Yeah they do. Aircraft bullets have plenty of feats. Going through 1in solid steel like tissue paper, etc.
But I'll calculate the power of them (better than any feat). Just hold on.

I want to see aircraft bullets going through something durable enough to survive a drop from a few hundred feet without a scratch. I'd like to see aircraft bullets going through something durable enough to survive (without a scratch) an explosion strong enough to level a bridge. I like to see aircraft bullets going through something durable enough to withstand multiple full hits from Hulk without any injury.

And no, I don't care about your calculations because we all know you make up the numbers anyway. I want actual feats.

Originally posted by h1a8

it wasnt a jab, it was a straight.

It was a punch delivered by the lead hand in a straight motion. Therefore, it was a jab. And there's no way a single jab (or even a straight) can do the same amount of damage as numerous unanswered ground n' pound blows on a man's face.

You have to forgive h1, he has no idea what he's talking about.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Using h1's logic.

Superman has never been shown to withstand being hit by a paintball. Thus paintballs would injure Superman.

Nah h1 has a point, because bullets are a similar attack but greater in force.

However a water balloon is a completely different type of attack. So what evidence is there that Superman can handle a water balloon? I dont remember him ever tanking any water bombs!

Originally posted by h1a8

Movie logic. There were holes in him though. maybe the bullets missed?
Thor's durability being greater is irrelevant (moving the goalposts).
Yet no proof that aircraft bullets will bounce off him.

Movie logic? Yeah great point!

Yes the bullets must have missed, and the near misses may have caused holes in his armour. Again great point 👆

Yes Thors durability being > Iron Mans is a silly point to bring up. I apologise for my childness. But wait? Didnt you just logically claim a bullet > paintballs? Was that not changing goal posts? No wait, your the science and maths teacher, so Im sure you know best.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Movie logic? Yeah great point!

Yes the bullets must have missed, and the near misses may have caused holes in his armour. Again great point 👆

Yes Thors durability being > Iron Mans is a silly point to bring up. I apologise for my childness. But wait? Didnt you just logically claim a bullet > paintballs? Was that not changing goal posts? No wait, your the science and maths teacher, so Im sure you know best.

Originally posted by FrothByte
It was a punch delivered by the lead hand in a straight motion. Therefore, it was a jab. And there's no way a single jab (or even a straight) can do the same amount of damage as numerous unanswered ground n' pound blows on a man's face.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I want to see aircraft bullets going through something durable enough to survive a drop from a few hundred feet without a scratch. I'd like to see aircraft bullets going through something durable enough to survive (without a scratch) an explosion strong enough to level a bridge. I like to see aircraft bullets going through something durable enough to withstand multiple full hits from Hulk without any injury.

And no, I don't care about your calculations because we all know you make up the numbers anyway. I want actual feats.

So an object that survives a fall from a few hundred feet without a scratch means that aircraft bullets cant penetrate it?

Based off the Hulk hits, he was punching with less than 200 tons of force.

Here's some math and physics.
A M61 Vulcan can fire 0.1kg armor piercing bullets at a rate of 100 rounds per second at a muzzle velocity of about 1000m/s.
The radius of the circular tip of the bullet is about 1mm (or 0.001m).

Let's calculate the force that would be exerted on Thor's head if it were to stop the bullet in less than 1in (or 0.0254m) stopping distance. This is the distance the bullet's center of gravity travels after the tip of the bullet makes contact with Thor.

Average stopping Force = Delta KE / stopping distance
= 1/2(0.1kg)(1000m/s)^2 /(0.0254m)
= 221 tons of force

But the PEAK of this average stopping Force (more than 216 tons of force) is initially applied at the tip of the bullet the moment the bullet starts to deform.
Peak Pressure = Peak Force /Area of tip
> 221 tons/ (pi x (0.001m)^2]
= 313 million tons per square inch

Double check my math as well as the science principles.
Ask a physicist or someone else with a physics background (at minimum a bachelors in physics) to check the work. I don't mind being wrong just as long as I'm transparent.

Originally posted by h1a8
I was responding to Silent. Hes trolling about the paintballs.

The part Darth quoted was your response to him. Why are you such a liar?

Originally posted by Silent Master
The part Darth quoted was your response to him. Why are you such a liar?

Originally posted by h1a8
So an object that survives a fall from a few hundred feet without a scratch means that aircraft bullets cant penetrate it?

Based off the Hulk hits, he was punching with less than 200 tons of force.

Here's some math and physics.
A M61 Vulcan can fire 0.1kg armor piercing bullets at a rate of 100 rounds per second at a muzzle velocity of about 1000m/s.
The radius of the circular tip of the bullet is about 1mm (or 0.001m).

Let's calculate the force that would be exerted on Thor's head if it were to stop the bullet in less than 1in (or 0.0254m) stopping distance. This is the distance the bullet's center of gravity travels after the tip of the bullet makes contact with Thor.

Average stopping Force = Delta KE / stopping distance
= 1/2(0.1kg)(1000m/s)^2 /(0.0254m)
= [b]221 tons of force

But the PEAK of this average stopping Force (more than 216 tons of force) is initially applied at the tip of the bullet the moment the bullet starts to deform.
Peak Pressure = Peak Force /Area of tip
> 221 tons/ (pi x (0.001m)^2]
= 313 million tons per square inch

Double check my math as well as the science principles.
Ask a physicist or someone else with a physics background (at minimum a bachelors in physics) to check the work. I don't mind being wrong just as long as I'm transparent. [/B]

Dude, you can write down whatever numbers you want. In the end, nothing you wrote proves that aircraft bullets can penetrate Thor. Especially when we all know that you simply made of the 200 ton force for Hulk and the fact that Hulk's punches never really damaged Thor.

In other words, you have no idea what amount of force is actually needed to pierce Thor's hide or cause him grevious injury. So until you can figure that out, all your numbers mean nothing.

Originally posted by h1a8
idiot post here. Are you drunk?

Why do you lie about something that's so easy to check, anyone can just look up and see that when you told Darth you are not responding to him. You lied.

Originally posted by h1a8
Bullets >>> paintballs
Facts!

I see you don't know how powerful aircraft bullets are. Enlighten me. What's worst than those?

Yeah they do. Aircraft bullets have plenty of feats. Going through 1in solid steel like tissue paper, etc.
But I'll calculate the power of them (better than any feat). Just hold on.

Movie logic. There were holes in him though. maybe the bullets missed?
Thor's durability being greater is irrelevant (moving the goalposts).
Yet no proof that aircraft bullets will bounce off him.

it wasnt a jab, it was a straight. And how it sent Thor flying breaking through shit was impressive. Rag doll doesn't compare. I never seen the hammer hit Thor in the face naked (the shield received most of the blow). And Getting hit in the chest isn't the same thing.

But you said "FAR" greater. It's clear that's an untruth.

Are you looking at the numbers of times Thor was hit? Or the force his face (not chest or shield) was hit with in comparison to the first Hulk fight?

Hela's knifes.

More proof that h1 is a liar

Darth's post

Originally posted by Darth Thor
If they went all the way through him (like a hot knife through butter as you put it) hed be dead. Duh.

So he took it fine. He didnt even once say ouch.

And yet Thors durability was >>> than an upgraded version of that suit. Heck Thor > an upgraded version that was further amped by 400%.

Try using logic and common sense please over your clear bias against Marvel and butthurt over Thors on screen power levels.

h1 responding to Darth's post

Originally posted by h1a8
Movie logic. There were holes in him though. maybe the bullets missed?
Thor's durability being greater is irrelevant (moving the goalposts).
Yet no proof that aircraft bullets will bounce off him.

Darth responding to h1

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Movie logic? Yeah great point!

Yes the bullets must have missed, and the near misses may have caused holes in his armour. Again great point 👆

Yes Thors durability being > Iron Mans is a silly point to bring up. I apologise for my childness. But wait? Didnt you just logically claim a bullet > paintballs? Was that not changing goal posts? No wait, your the science and maths teacher, so Im sure you know best.

h1 claiming he was responding to me and not Darth

Originally posted by h1a8
I was responding to Silent. Hes trolling about the paintballs.