Colossus vs Ares

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Originally posted by -Pr-
A momentary knock down is not a win.
Hulk was UNCONSCIOUS. You see Hulk is sleep and unresponsive.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Any chance of scans?

It was in a Hercules issue so it was a joke. This was the very same issue where he knee's Sentry in the nuts and makes some stupid quip about exploding suns.

If you REALLY want the scans, I'll get them.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It's Dark Avengers. Of course it's Gargan.

Bare-chested Bullseye fights him in melee in the very same arc and survives 😂

You know your argument is garbage when you use a cheap shot as a genuine example and present an eye stab as a "h2h fight".

Tell us again how turning Maestro's head a little is a good feat.

Ares is that featless, I know, but c'mon.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Tell us again how turning Maestro's head a little is a good feat.

Ares is that featless, I know, but c'mon.

an amped Maestro who by that point in time was a casual reality warper. You also failed to notice that earlier I that miniseries, Ares shrugged off three punches from him and then caught his fist rather casually (in addition to breaking out of a containment crystal that Maestro and Sentry couldn't break out of).

Look, the fact of the matter is that Ares has numerous showings where he's shrugged off punches from people that would past Colossus in moments, has better feats of pure skill than Colossus, and has a stupid level of pain tolerance. Meanwhile, his opponent is a pacifist artist with a history of getting punked by every other villain that shows up.

Originally posted by deathslash
an amped Maestro who by that point in time was a casual reality warper. You also failed to notice that earlier I that miniseries, Ares shrugged off three punches from him and then caught his fist rather casually (in addition to breaking out of a containment crystal that Maestro and Sentry couldn't break out of).

Look, the fact of the matter is that Ares has numerous showings where he's shrugged off punches from people that would past Colossus in moments, has better feats of pure skill than Colossus, and has a stupid level of pain tolerance. Meanwhile, his opponent is a pacifist artist with a history of getting punked by every other villain that shows up.

An amped Juggernaut failed to "paste" Colossus with a punch but somehow Ares will?

Originally posted by deathslash
an amped Maestro who by that point in time was a casual reality warper. You also failed to notice that earlier I that miniseries, Ares shrugged off three punches from him and then caught his fist rather casually (in addition to breaking out of a containment crystal that Maestro and Sentry couldn't break out of).

Look, the fact of the matter is that Ares has numerous showings where he's shrugged off punches from people that would past Colossus in moments, has better feats of pure skill than Colossus, and has a stupid level of pain tolerance. Meanwhile, his opponent is a pacifist artist with a history of getting punked by every other villain that shows up.

You actually believe any of the nonsense you say?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
This Venom?

vin

You keep posting this, but 2 panels of Venom biting Ares due to a sneak attack and the next time we see Ares he's perfectly fine do not equal anything.

He can pick Ares up if Ares isn't expecting it? He can fail to inflict damage to Ares by literally chomping on him?

Originally posted by juggernaut74
An amped Juggernaut failed to "paste" Colossus with a punch but somehow Ares will?
by using his superior skill in conjunction with his superior (even if it's only slightly) strength? Yes; I do believe that Ares will win.

Also, while we're on the subject, name which of the following characters you don't think will destroy Colossus:

1. Shaman
2. Maestro
3. Sentry
4. Hercules

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You actually believe any of the nonsense you say?
so you have no real argument that you can provide other than low showings and non feats?

The last time we saw Ares in a comic, he casually broke out of a crystal that held Maestro and Sentry, was one of only four people (the others being Blue Marvel, Sentry, Grandmaster) to even slightly affect an amped Maestro, easily owned Goliath, and once again shrugged off punches from Sentry. Meanwhile, you're bringing up low showings like they're the standard and non feats from like fourty years ago as if they're impressive.

Those 4 would also destroy Ares obviously.

He was beating Shaman, was more or less Hercules’ equal, lasted way longer against Void Sentry then most would (Even having him expend a large amount of power) & looked competitive with an amped Maestro in strength, or at least not far off.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Pr, calm the hell down.

Rage you don't believe all that nonsense.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He was beating Shaman, was more or less Hercules’ equal, lasted way longer against Void Sentry then most would (Even having him expend a large amount of power) & looked competitive with an amped Maestro in strength, or at least not far off.
👆

I love how the argument from the group that says that Colossus wins consists so heavily on posting low showings and when asked for actual feats of superiority, they genuinely post him breaking a few feet of ice as if it's the most amazing thing ever.

Meanwhile, the side that says Ares wins backs it up with scans of his skill when fighting Iron Fist (someone that has easily owned Colossus before), Hercules, and being a legitimate peer of herald level characters that would utterly babyshake Piotr.

Let me post some of Colossus' higher feats.

Colossus has:

Knocked out the Hulk.
Did very well vs Gladitor in a slugfest.
Fought even against Red Hulk(their punches were shaking the San Andreas Fault).
Fought and held his own against Juggernaut and actually beating him twice.
Was getting the better of classic Sasquatch before the fight was stopped.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Let me post some of Colossus' higher feats.

Colossus has:

Knocked out the Hulk.
Did very well vs Gladitor in a slugfest.
Fought even against Red Hulk(their punches were shaking the San Andreas Fault).
Fought and held his own against Juggernaut and actually beating him twice.
Was getting the better of classic Sasquatch before the fight was stopped.

Shattered vibranium shackles.

Did vastly more damage to the magical ice than the combined efforts of Wolverine, Storm and Classic Strange.

Had a damn good showing against Arkon.

Heh, good thing you mention Red Hulk. Another Hulk who effortlessly handled Ares 👆

I'm sure there was major context to the Hulk and Colossus fight. He was severely damaged before fighting Colossus due to a fire breathing dragon. He was at that pound for a reason and he was doing the pain thing for a reason.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm sure there was major context to the Hulk and Colossus fight. He was severely damaged before fighting Colossus due to a fire breathing dragon. He was at that pound for a reason and he was doing the pain thing for a reason.

Severely damaged 😂

So Kitty's pet essentially beat the Hulk?! 😱

Gee, last time I checked, I thought Hulk grew stronger with his anger... 😖hifty:

Colossus even mentions it here...

He was hurt and badly. Disoriented, damaged.

Originally posted by carver9
Colossus even mentions it here...

He was hurt and badly. Disoriented, damaged.

Umm....Piotr ammends those comments to maybe Hulk wasn't hurt that bad.