Colossus vs Ares

Started by juggernaut7420 pages

Originally posted by h1a8
Ares doesn't have his axe or any weapons here. Are you forgetting that?

Can Ares defeat Hulk without weapons? Well Colossus beat Hulk before.
Can Ares go toe to toe in a prolong fight with Gladiator without weapons? Well Colossus did that too.

Colossus beat Super Juggernaut as well he even took some serious shots in the process. Ares isn't packing that kind of power.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Try to make them talk about Ares' feats vin

Like that time when he got assraped by Dani Moonstar who just got the Valkyrie amp and had no time to get used to her new powers.

Or when he challenged the Hulk and either failed to connect or failed to do any damage, getting one-shotted like the z-lister he is.

What about Colossus and Moses Magnum who made him look like a useless paperweight?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Try to make them talk about Ares' feats vin

Like that time when he got assraped by Dani Moonstar who just got the Valkyrie amp and had no time to get used to her new powers.

Or when he challenged the Hulk and either failed to connect or failed to do any damage, getting one-shotted like the z-lister he is.

No he didn't, Pete was toyed with along with the rest of the mutants. He was no threat at all, and neither was Ares. However, Ares is a better fighter and faster. Lip service means nothing, especially since we know based on feats that Savage Hulk would've destroyed Colossus. Leaning on one scene won't change that.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Colossus beat Super Juggernaut as well he even took some serious shots in the process. Ares isn't packing that kind of power.

Scans?

Originally posted by Stoic
What about Colossus and Moses Magnum who made him look like a useless paperweight?

And what makes you think Ares would look better against Moses?

Originally posted by Stoic
No he didn't, Pete was toyed with along with the rest of the mutants. He was no threat at all, and neither was Ares. However, Ares is a better fighter and faster. Lip service means nothing, especially since we know based on feats that Savage Hulk would've destroyed Colossus. Leaning on one scene won't change that.

Colossus took Hulk's punches and got up.

Better fighter...? Faster...?

Ares failed to land a hit on Hulk (lol, not big enough of a target for Ares, I guess) and got one-shotted.

Colossus supporters aren't resorting to lip service in this thread. That's what Ares' fans do.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
And what makes you think Ares would look better against Moses?

Colossus took Hulk's punches and got up.

Better fighter...? Faster...?

Ares failed to land a hit on Hulk (lol, not big enough of a target for Ares, I guess) and got one-shotted.

Colossus supporters aren't resorting to lip service in this thread. That's what Ares' fans do.

My point is that most characters have poor showings. Do you remember when Spiderman embarrassed the entire X-Men? Secret Wars?

That's exactly what the Colossus supporters like you and h1 are doing. Using one showing to place Colossus above his station. The fact is that Ares is more agile, more experienced, faster, better fighter, and doesn't tire. You're trying to make this about Ares vs Hulk. Colossus is no Hulk. Colossus is no Gladiator. They even nerfed him, changing his form from solid metal, to a sheet that covers his skin.

As I mentioned, these two are within the same strength tier, or close enough that it wouldn't matter. The Ares that fought on the Avengers and against Hercules would absolutely school Colossus.

Getting into this with you is pointless because when it comes to Asgardians, Olympians, and any other race like them you are clearly biased. This means that your judgement is compromised.

Originally posted by Stoic
Using one showing to place Colossus above his station.

One showing?

More like numerous showings.

It's Ares who is lacking feats, not Colossus.

Originally posted by Stoic
The fact is that Ares is more agile

Based on what?

It's Colossus who has actual agility feats.

Ares can't dodge shit and has trouble landing hits on targets few times bigger than him 😂

You have this ridiculous hard-on for Ares, yet you forget he never actually did anything in Marvel comics.

Stop confusing him with DC Ares.

Originally posted by Stoic
Scans?

Nobody's gonna spoonfeed you. It's 2020, you can read comics on any device.

Amazing X-Men #19.

Stoic it goes both ways. If you use showings where Ares is at his highest (although he's mostly a punching bag) then same should go for Colossus.
Give us some convincing feats for Ares without his weapons.
I'll be objective. Give scans or issue numbers

Stilt ending existences here.

Ares wins.

It depends if his axe can cut Colossus. If Colossus hits Ares he is knocked out imo. Colossus strength level was calculated at 1.5 tons per pound, He weights 500 pounds so his strength level is 750 tons, Ares is only a 60 tonner IIRC

Ares has no axe here