Colossus vs Ares

Started by zopzop20 pages

Colossus for the overwhelming majority.

Love ya zop but you are totally wrong my dude.

Cyclops literally made a deal with a devil while Colossus fought Gargan because he had no other Dark Avenger to match. This was a consistent theme across different writers and books.

Ares would literally two piece Colossus...

Originally posted by zopzop
Colossus for the overwhelming majority.
I agree.

Colossus fights Hulk and gets respect, Ares fights Hulk and gets humiliated.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
I don't even think that punch exists first off

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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
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If you study the panels in that fight Colossus was basically fighting WWHulk for quite a while with minimal help.

Watch this. Omg, the spit!!!

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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Watch this. Omg, the spit!!!

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Cheapshotted him. And even Beast made Hulk bleed with a kick in that arc.
Hulk wasn't in smash mode until his fight with Juggernaut in that series. He was specifically not trying to kill anyone, and the damage he caused Juggernaut pretty much shows how much he was throttling down before hand.

There's a difference between hurting the most subdued Hulk we saw that entire arc, and making Sentry "THE SPIT" when he's in full on kill mode. You're also writing off the Sentry fight purely because of the one scan I used, when the Sentry fight was a great showing for Ares, ending aside. He took two huge punches right off the bat, choked, rammed, elbowed, and all this from a being who was operating at a level capable of tearing him in half. Right before getting torn in half he hit Sentry hard enough to spit and effect him.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
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That's better though. But again, we look at him arriving at the X-Mansion. Beast took quite a few shots from him as well and only got knocked out twice, the other times he was groggy but shown to be getting up. If we apply your same logic across the board we have everyone who took more than one shot or one shot without being KO'ed as more durable than Ares... and She-Hulk, Doc SamPson, and Thing. It's applicable across the board, or we realize Hulk was going a little bit harder in the main arc.

He took some shots and that's a good feat, but we're talking about this like Hulk wouldn't have one shot Colossus if he were at the rage he was at in WWH 2.

Even if, you're contrasting a high end feat against an apparently low end feat iyo. In that case, Colossus has done better against Hulk. Ares has done better against Thor. That still leaves us with Ares having better feats however, and a seemingly higher standing within the universe. Ares hits harder and it's pretty arguable that he's more durable too. If this was a "Who can fight Hulk better" thread, then Colossus would probably win.

Colossus. But it'd be a tough fight.

Even while crippled Colossus admits that WWH is too dangerous to get close too.

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Lol, WWH could control his strength and abilities with superhuman mathematical accuracy, to the point where he could create an omni-directional shockwave and avoid fatalities in the immediate area. It was his most impressive super power imo as far as Pak is concerned.

He could hit Aunt May and let her live if he wanted to. If he wanted Colossus dead, he'd have punched a hole right through him.

Ares would literally make Colossus into a urinal, because he's that savage. The original Oeming Ares mini is more impressive than anything Colossus has ever done put together, to the power of 3. Including the Gladiator fight, and the one time he held up the Quinjet or something, lol.

Ares is way faster, much more durable in terms of damage soak, infinitely more skilled, and just flat out much stronger. He'd destroy Colossus with ease. This is a flat out major point across a 7 issue crossover between the X-men and Dark Avengers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnZ8hlG64Jo

You think Colossus would ever have that kind of respect? Bro, that's more respect than Thor got.

Colossus can stalemate your average Sentry for a while, Ares losing to him was PIS 😖hifty:

Since we are using abc logic
Colossus has beaten the Hulk and was in a prolonged fight with Gladiator.. What feats by Ares tops that?

Zeus, Sentry, Chaos War King...

I think Ares also had a nice showing vs Nate?

Ares Strength CL70
Colossus Strength CL100
Strength goes to Colossus

Durability/Invulnerability goes to Colossus. Except if Ares is allowed to use Vibranium weapons.

H2H goes to Ares obviously. Though peter is good he shouldn't be on that level.

I think this is a rather close one. Skill over stats most of the time but without weapons Colossus should win more often than not imo. With weapons, dunno most likely Ares if the metal is hard enough.

Originally posted by h1a8
Since we are using abc logic
Colossus has beaten the Hulk and was in a prolonged fight with Gladiator.. What feats by Ares tops that?
Hes done ok vs Juggernaut.

Originally posted by Bentley
I think Ares also had a nice showing vs Nate?

He was beating Nate.

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'But you.....I have no counter for you....'

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The war God....is winning.

Then he has some nice feats, like keeping portals open when it's mathematically impossible:
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And getting into slugfests with Herc:
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That's the level he's on. And that's not bringing in his full history throughout the years.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Hes done ok vs Juggernaut.

And amped Juggernaut.

Ares' "feats" are about doing a whole lot of nothing.