Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Very few feats, all things considered.
Still, Colossus never does this kind of fun stuff:
Ares is on a completely different tier from Colossus. At his best, he was like a more brutal, less versatile/powerful Wonder Woman with a healing factor. An amalgam of Wolverine and Thor. He got jobbed plenty, but he also did pretty well.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He was beating Nate.https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/23374/1792101-dark_x_men_03_0012.jpg
'But you.....I have no counter for you....'
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/23374/1792105-dark_x_men_03_0016.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/23374/1792106-dark_x_men_03_0017.jpgThe war God....is winning.
Then he has some nice feats, like keeping portals open when it's mathematically impossible:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/23374/1654695-sw09004.jpgAnd getting into slugfests with Herc:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/23374/2930527-ih_115_dcp_014.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/23374/2930529-ih_115_dcp_016.jpgThat's the level he's on. And that's not bringing in his full history throughout the years.
Someone should post Ares vs Rogue/Gambit.
Put it this way.
If I made a Gladiator vs Superman thread, and used Glads' Colossus showing as proof that Superman wins...I'd be crucified (and rightly so).
Everyone would say how I was low balling, using PIS, whatever.
Yet, it's used here as if Colossus is a generic herald buster
When he, with two amps (Cyttorak and P5) was unable to KO Stilts fav, Puny Parker, despite him wanting to do so.
Either Peter is that good, or Piotr is that shit.
Originally posted by leonidasWWHulk compares Colossus strength to his old levels.
early on ares was shown as a direct peer of thor and hercules. he got watered down a bit then seemingly was given a bit more respect by marvel. in general i'd take ares for a slight majority here. overall i don't think there is an awful lot separating these 2.
Put it this way.
Colossus was manhandled - literally - by WWH. Who specifically says that maybe in the past (i.e. when he was weaker/not holding back) Colossus MIGHT have made a decent opponent.
Otoh, Ares fights evenly with Herc. Who WWH says had the best chance of stopping him.
That shows their levels.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Put it this way.Colossus was manhandled - literally - by WWH. Who specifically says that maybe in the past (i.e. when he was weaker/not holding back) Colossus MIGHT have made a decent opponent.
Otoh, Ares fights evenly with Herc. Who WWH says had the best chance of stopping him.
That shows their levels.
No, that shows some ABC-logic level shit.
I expected this from Carter, not you.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Put it this way.Colossus was manhandled - literally - by WWH. Who specifically says that maybe in the past (i.e. when he was weaker/not holding back) Colossus MIGHT have made a decent opponent.
Otoh, Ares fights evenly with Herc. Who WWH says had the best chance of stopping him.
That shows their levels.
We all know that is false because Savage Hulk will stomp Hercules and the fact that Sentry was the best chance actually, not Hercules.
Colossus beat Savage Hulk. That’s better than anything Ares ever done. Even Hercules can't claim that.
2nd case.
I don't see Ares as strong as Colossus. I'm not sure if Ares is a class 100. It's a well known fact that strong characters under class 100 can give somewhat decent fights to class 100s. Also low class 100s can give decent fights (before losing) to very high class 100s.
IMO Colossus is stronger and a little more durable but Ares is faster and more skilled. Ares edges it out slightly (6/10) because of those things.
