Colossus vs Ares

Started by zopzop20 pages

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not my point.

Point was, Stilt said NOTHING he did after that was on that level to suggest a team was ever needed to take him down.


That's my point. Stilt was right. That Ares/Sentry/WM/Carol showing doesn't suggest you need a team to take down Ares. Just like the Doc Samson/WM/IM/Namor/Hercules showing doesn't suggest that you need a team to take down Doc Samson (because we know his history).

Originally posted by deathslash
Anyone else remember that time when an amped Maestro had trouble taking down ares?

https://i.imgur.com/M4sLQwT.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WOCYWwz.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/f9MdluY.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/zVegw5K.jpg

That showing makes it more believable that Colossus wins. You are not doing Ares any favors.

Um... what?

So Maestro, whilst trying to subdue Ares, is unable to KO him with three shots.

h1: This proves Colossus can beat him.

@zop: They're all trying to restrain him. He flings them off casually. You think IM on his lonesome would be enough to physically restrain him, when those three couldn't? OK.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
A good combination of people came together for Ares here.

On the other side you have Stilt, Zop, Juggernaut, and h1.

i spurted a bit of beer here.... 👆

Originally posted by h1a8
That showing makes it more believable that Colossus wins. You are not doing Ares any favors.
lol, what? Ares shrugs off multiple punches from an amped Maestro and then briefly floors him and you think that demonstrates that Colossus would win? LOL, he just came out of a stasis crystal (numerous alternate reality heroes couldn't break out of theirs, Maestro and Sentry included), got blitzed by an amped version of the the hulk, and then briefly downs him.

To be fair, all he did to Maestro is kick him in the dick.

Fun fact: that Maestro's armour is taken from an Iron Hulk:

And Maestro only needed 4.5 mins to defeat the Grandmaster:

But yeah, Colossus can replicate that 👆

Originally posted by Damborgson
To be fair, all he did to Maestro is kick him in the dick.
He stopped his punch. I'm pretty sure if you look around you can find an h1 quote about punch stopping and his thoughts. Then again, h1 doesn't give a shit about what he said before, only what he can twist now.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Fun fact: that Maestro's armour is taken from an Iron Hulk:

And Maestro only needed 4.5 mins to defeat the Grandmaster:

But yeah, Colossus can replicate that 👆

Collector was packing enough power to break the shield too.
Mind you he implied later he was stronger in his own dimension than he was with the Iso, but still, enough power to break a piece off the shield.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
@zop: They're all trying to restrain him. He flings them off casually. You think IM on his lonesome would be enough to physically restrain him, when those three couldn't? OK.

Again see my Doc Samson example, much more impressive than the Ares' one and no one believe IM wouldn't destroy Doc Samson in a fight (just like he would Ares).

They're not trying to 'restrain' him, they are actively beating the sh|t out of him and he still threw them off like feebs.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
@zop: They're all trying to restrain him.

Carol isn't.

Bob does a half-assed effort with one hand.

Originally posted by zopzop
Again see my Doc Samson example, much more impressive than the Ares' one and no one believe IM wouldn't destroy Doc Samson in a fight (just like he would Ares).

They're not trying to 'restrain' him, they are actively beating the sh|t out of him and he still threw them off like feebs.

lol they were most definitely NOT trying to beat the sh!t out of him. he suckered them, admitted simon was stronger and they were barely attending him when he threw them off to utterly no effect. he only entered the battle because they were too powerful to tackle hulk and and he was afraid they would do too much damage. the feat looked sort of impressive i guess, until you read the entire meeting in context. i mean wtf? even when they battled the hulk they were basically laughing and popping jokes.

Originally posted by leonidas
lol they were most definitely NOT trying to beat the sh!t out of him. he suckered them, admitted simon was stronger and they were barely attending him when he threw them off to utterly no effect. he only entered the battle because they were too powerful to tackle hulk and and he was afraid they would do too much damage. the feat looked sort of impressive i guess, until you read the entire meeting in context. i mean wtf? even when they battled the hulk they were basically laughing and popping jokes.

Do you not see Hercules punching him in the face, while Namor, IM and Wonderman attempt to restrain him?

Originally posted by zopzop
Do you not see Hercules punching him in the face, while Namor, IM and Wonderman attempt to restrain him?

That's nothing, man!

Look at what Danvers contributed in the Ares scan! Look and tremble!

Few inches more and Ares could've sued her for the sexual assault!

She was using both hands to amp Sentry's one arm.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
She was using both hands

Oh yes, she was.

Doc SamPson knocks out Colossus too

Zopzop, everyone of the old guard has read that comic. The context made it very clear that Samson wasn't even as strong as any of the four.

On the OTHER hand, a few issues earlier to that feat, Tony said he estimated it would take 5 of his toughest Avengers (Sentry, Wonder Man, Ms. Marvel etc.) to take down Ares. 6 for safety.

Not comparable at all with the context given.

Fyi, Sampson would beat the utter shit out of Colossus.

Originally posted by h1a8
That showing makes it more believable that Colossus wins. You are not doing Ares any favors.

Lol.

That punch catch and breaking out of the stasis is way more impressive than anything Colossus has ever done.

I'm just confused as to how some people are surprised? Cyclops, a master strategist, literally made a deal with the Devil to create an amped Valkyrie to stop Ares. Nothing else the X-men had could stop him on Utopia, and there were some heavy hitters there.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol.

That punch catch and breaking out of the stasis is way more impressive than anything Colossus has ever done.

That's just what Colossus wants though.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
A good combination of people came together for Ares here.

On the other side you have Stilt, Zop, Juggernaut, and h1.

Colossus isn't the hero KMC deserves, but he is the hero we need. He will unite us.