Ares/Steppenwolf vs. MCU Hela/Kurse

Started by Silent Master15 pages

Originally posted by h1a8
The movie states that she gets more powerful on asgard. Hela was affected by lightning on Asgard. She has a healing factor on Asgard which allows her to recover.

If for some reason Ares can't hurt her with lightning or her own weapons then the fight becomes a stalemate.

1) Powerful and durable are two different things.
2) Prove that she only has a healing factor on Asgard
3) Back up your claim that Hela can't hurt Ares

Originally posted by Silent Master
1) Powerful and durable are two different things.
2) Prove that she only has a healing factor on Asgard
3) Back up your claim that Hela can't hurt Ares

Powerful implies durability from the movie.
You have to prove that it does not.

You have to prove the level of her healing outside of Asgard for her to have that ability.

Characters do not have abilities without proof.

Originally posted by h1a8
Powerful implies durability from the movie.
You have to prove that it does not.

You have to prove the level of her healing outside of Asgard for her to have that ability.

Characters do not have abilities without proof.

Prove it
It's your claim, that means you have to prove it
It's your claim, that means you have to prove it

Originally posted by Silent Master
Prove it
It's your claim, that means you have to prove it
It's your claim, that means you have to prove it

I did.
The proof is that
characters don't get abilities without proof.
You have to prove that she has the same level of abilities as in Asgard as well as she wouldn't run out of power using those abilities OUTSIDE OF ASGARD.

Originally posted by h1a8
I did.
The proof is that
characters don't get abilities without proof.
You have to prove that she has the same level of abilities as in Asgard as well as she wouldn't run out of power using those abilities OUTSIDE OF ASGARD.

No, you didn't.

No, you're claiming that her healing factor is weaker/doesn't exist outside of Asgard. that is a claim that requries proof.

You also have to provide proof for your claim that Hela cannot hurt Ares.

Originally posted by Silent Master
No, you didn't.

No, you're claiming that her healing factor is weaker/doesn't exist outside of Asgard. that is a claim that requries proof.

You also have to provide proof for your claim that Hela cannot hurt Ares.

She’s weaker by the movie.
That implies ...

I already stated that this is at least a stalemate for Ares. This implies that I’m not actually claiming anything related to Ares but just the possibility.

There is evidence to support Hela being weaker in durability, healing, etc. if you disagree then at least you can’t argue with the stalemate.

Originally posted by h1a8
She's weaker by the movie.
That implies ...

I already stated that this is at least a stalemate for Ares. This implies that I’m not actually claiming anything related to Ares but just the possibility.

There is evidence to support Hela being weaker in durability, healing, etc. if you disagree then at least you can’t argue with the stalemate.

Prove she's weaker by the movie.

Post the evidence that she is weaker in durability, healing etc

Wrong, stating that it's at least a stalemate for Ares means you're claiming that there is no chance Hela could win. that is a claim that requires proof.

Yes, but what is the evidence that supports Hela having less indurance outside of Asgard.

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
Yes, but what is the evidence that supports Hela having less indurance outside of Asgard.

I just gave you the evidence. She’s not only weaker outside of Asgard but her powers are limited because she has no Asgard to draw from.

Do you think that durability is a power?

It is not.

Originally posted by h1a8
I just gave you the evidence. She’s not only weaker outside of Asgard but her powers are limited because she has no Asgard to draw from.

Odd that none of us saw this evidence you claim to have posted. so remind us. what was the evidence of her powers being limited outside Asgard?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Odd that none of us saw this evidence you claim to have posted. so remind us. what was the evidence of her powers being limited outside Asgard?

Originally posted by h1a8
In Ragnarok, Thor talks to Odin before he dies. Odin tells Thor, "she draws her strength from Asgard and once she gets there her powers will be limitless."

Also, after Thor kill all the fodder with his newly found lightning powers, the three watch as Hela slowly approaches. Thor states, "The longer Hela is on Asgard, the more powerful she grows."

How does that statement in anyway prove your claims in regards to her healing factor?

Originally posted by Silent Master
How does that statement in anyway prove your claims in regards to her healing factor?

She draws from Asgard to heal. Like you said, prove that she has infinite energy to heal without running out.

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
Do you think that durability is a power?

It is not.

Superman’s durability is a power, Hulk’s durability is a power, etc.
Even if it isn’t then Hela was shown to be stabbed and affected by lightning. She healed. So her durability is irrelevant tbh.

Vic is getting schooled by h1. Lol.

Originally posted by h1a8
She draws from Asgard to heal. Like you said, prove that she has infinite energy to heal without running out.

Where is it stated that she draws on Asgard to heal?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Where is it stated that she draws on Asgard to heal?
H1 is getting the better of you too. Sad.

Originally posted by h1a8
She draws from Asgard to heal. Like you said, prove that she has infinite energy to heal without running out.

Superman’s durability is a power, Hulk’s durability is a power, etc.
Even if it isn’t then Hela was shown to be stabbed and affected by lightning. She healed. So her durability is irrelevant tbh.

Are you saying that she has durability, healing, or both?

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
Are you saying that she has durability, healing, or both?
Just how stupid are you?

Was I asking you?