Ares/Steppenwolf vs. MCU Hela/Kurse

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Originally posted by victreebelvictr
Was I asking you?
So your stupidity is without limits.

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
Are you saying that she has durability, healing, or both?

She has healing. IMO, Her durability isnt more than Ares can overcome and therefore it's irrelevant.
In other words, I believe that She's not immune to lightning. She's not immune to being stabbed, etc.

Even if we assume that Ares lightning won't harm her (or it can and she has infinite healing power) and we assume that she can always heal from being stabbed then the fight becomes a stalemate. She has no way of really tagging Ares. It's not like he's going to be trying to talk to her and get her to join him.

Just as you guys believe that Ares can't continue to shoot lightning (he will eventually run out energy) then you have to use the same logic towards Hela, especially when she can't draw energy from Asgard. She can't keep producing weapons or healing (assuming that she can heal at all outside of Asgard).

Originally posted by h1a8
She has healing. IMO, Her durability isnt more than Ares can overcome and therefore it's irrelevant.

Your arguments always come down to your opinion which are always DC biased.

Try on screen feats for a change.

Originally posted by h1a8
She has healing. IMO, Her durability isnt more than Ares can overcome and therefore it's irrelevant.

Prove it

In other words, I believe that She's not immune to lightning. She's not immune to being stabbed, etc.

Prove that Ares lightning can ko or kill her.

Even if we assume that Ares lightning won't harm her (or it can and she has infinite healing power) and we assume that she can always heal from being stabbed then the fight becomes a stalemate. She has no way of really tagging Ares. It's not like he's going to be trying to talk to her and get her to join him.

Just as you guys believe that Ares can't continue to shoot lightning (he will eventually run out energy) then you have to use the same logic towards Hela, especially when she can't draw energy from Asgard. She can't keep producing weapons or healing (assuming that she can heal at all outside of Asgard).

Prove that Hela will never be able to hit Ares.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Prove it

Prove that Ares lightning can ko or kill her.

Prove that Hela will never be able to hit Ares.

She never shown immunity to lightning, so she doesn't get that ability.
She rather showed healing ability.

Ares can maneuver, teleport, control metal, and control wind. That renders Hela's blades useless. She has no other ability to attack Ares.

That doesn't prove that Ares can overcome her durability/healing. try again.

That doesn't prove Ares lightning can hurt or kill her, try again.

That's a no limits fallacy, try again.

Originally posted by Silent Master
That doesn't prove that Ares can overcome her durability/healing. try again.

That doesn't prove Ares lightning can hurt or kill her, try again.

That's a no limits fallacy, try again.

She wasn't shown to be immune to lightning. So why should she be?
We don't know if she heals outside of Asgard and if so, to what extent. And if she can heal, we don't know how many times until her energy wears out.
All we know is that she is weaker and can't draw from Asgard.
Everything else is speculation. So you can't claim Ares can't hurt her outside of Asgard. My stance is that we don't know, but based off the movie, she is weaker outside of Asgard.

You haven't proven that Ares lightning can ko or kill her and you haven't proven that she only heals on Asgard.

I don’t say she has healing as much as it is durability.

Originally posted by h1a8
She wasn't shown to be immune to lightning. So why should she be?
We don't know if she heals outside of Asgard and if so, to what extent. And if she can heal, we don't know how many times until her energy wears out.
All we know is that she is weaker and can't draw from Asgard.
Everything else is speculation. So you can't claim Ares can't hurt her outside of Asgard. My stance is that we don't know, but based off the movie, she is weaker outside of Asgard.

Thor doesnt have a different powerset off Asgard so there is Zero reason to think Hela does.

Originally posted by h1a8
Hela being >>>>>WW has absolutely no bearing on anything in this fight.
And I disagree that Hela would beat WW in a fight outside of Asgard.

Why? Didnt WW beat Ares?

And would WW beat a Mjolnir Thor? I doubt so.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Thor doesnt have a different powerset off Asgard so there is Zero reason to think Hela does.

Where did I say that Hela has a different power set outside of Asgard? And she has nothing to do with Thor. Hela gets more powerful while being in Asgard, Thor doesn't.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You haven't proven that Ares lightning can ko or kill her and you haven't proven that she only heals on Asgard.

Good ole Silent. Troll troll troll. Ignore a person's statements and repeat the same statements. Anyone can do that. That isn't debating. You didn't rebut anything. You are just trolling.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Why? Didnt WW beat Ares?

And would WW beat a Mjolnir Thor? I doubt so.

WW has the speed and She sees bullets in slow motion.
Forum characters always fight at full capacity (to the best of their ability).
WW beat Ares through a plot device that Hela, Steppenwolf, etc don't have.

I don't ignore proof, perhaps you should try posting some.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I don't ignore proof, perhaps you should try posting some.

So a person that hasn't shown immunity to something (or something greater), automatically is? Good to know.

Either post the exact quote where I claim Hela is immune to lightning or retract the claim.

Originally posted by h1a8
Where did I say that Hela has a different power set outside of Asgard? And she has nothing to do with Thor. Hela gets more powerful while being in Asgard, Thor doesn't.

By claiming she can take lightning on Asgard but not on Earth, and she can do this and that on Asgardbut not on Earth you are basically claiming a different powerset. BecUse we have already seen how much more powerful she is than Thor on Earth.

So does Thor. Where do you get your fake news from that Hela gets stronger on Asgard but not Thor?

Try watching the movie.

Originally posted by h1a8
Ares would beat Marvel team or stalemate them.

Ares, who lost to Wonder Woman, is going to beat a team that has a character on it that needed Surtur to appear to beat her?

Keep being yourself H1

Originally posted by tkitna
Ares, who lost to Wonder Woman, is going to beat a team that has a character on it that needed Surtur to appear to beat her?

Keep being yourself H1

Beat or stalemate.
WW beating Ares has nothing to do with anything.
Stop being stupid and start thinking. I already explained how Ares achieves this. If you disagree then just rebut it. That's called debating.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
By claiming she can take lightning on Asgard but not on Earth, and she can do this and that on Asgardbut not on Earth you are basically claiming a different powerset. BecUse we have already seen how much more powerful she is than Thor on Earth.

So does Thor. Where do you get your fake news from that Hela gets stronger on Asgard but not Thor?

Try watching the movie.


She couldn't take lightning without being affected in Asgard. She recovered.

She's weaker outside of Asgard. My stance is that we don't know the level of resistance she has and the level of recovery she has outside of Asgard. If she operates EXACTLY the same outside of Asgard then that contradicts her being weaker outside of Asgard and also having a power source (Asgard) to draw from.

I see that h1 still hasn't posted any proof to support his massively biased opinion.