Maul and Oppress vs. Obi Wan and Grievous

Originally posted by Darth Thor
[B]They have faced each other twice

I didn't realize we counted fights when only one combatant had their weapon out. You might note that the op states both fighters will have their lightsabers, hence this "fight" you're talking about can be discounted.

In the first one Grievous landed a magnificent kick (after sending Magnaguards to tire him out first)

3rd time Maul casually TKd Grievous off a cliff.

And yet I'm sure you'd argue maul could beat tpm Kenobi.
I wonder why?

Follow up question: what's the point of pushing someone when it doesn't hurt him?

how can grevious beat maul?

I'd say you can build a solid case for grievous beating Maul using the above.

Grievous isn't beating Maul, he was repeatedly stalemated by pre prime Kenobi and destroyed by ROTS Kenobi [Maul as of TPM [In Revenge he's TPM level] was on par with TCW season 4 Kenobi who was vastly superior to the Kenobi Grievous fought against]. Maul's growth in season 5 should put him well above Grievous [Nearer prime Kenobi who's far superior to the Kenobi Grievous fought was matched by Maul]. While it's obvious Kenobi is a better fighter [Weaker force user though] Maul can match him, something Grievous never could do as of ROTS.

Originally posted by TenebrousWay
Kenobi solos.

Originally posted by CuckedCurry

Tried that before, didn't work.

Originally posted by StarWarsFan77
Absolutely right once again

Thanks chief

Grievous is not > Maul, lmao.

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Grievous might not even take Savage, nevermind Maul.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
I didn't realize we counted fights when only one combatant had their weapon out. You might note that the op states both fighters will have their lightsabers, hence this "fight" you're talking about can be discounted.

Nice try Troll. But Maul only got his weapon out AFTER Physically Blitzing Grievous. He was simply faster and stronger.

Your hatred of Maul never ceases to surprise me.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang

Would love proof that Maul's exhaustion from a couple seconds of fighting affects his bout with grievous.

Who said it was a couple of seconds? Lmao

You cant time comic book scans. All we know for sure is Grievous himself KNEW he needed every advantage to have a fair shot at Maul.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang

Kenobi causally bisected Maul:
https://youtu.be/SKlLMRuOx10?t=265

And yet I'm sure you'd argue maul could beat tpm Kenobi.
I wonder why?

Follow up question: what's the point of pushing someone when it doesn't hurt him?

Because Obi-Wan didnt slice him mid-combat Dummy.

Wel aside from the fact that you have to be absurdly naeive to believe he wasnt hurt in the least after disappearing for so much time, it was a clear case of BFR. You know the same way Kanan overpowered Rebels Maul.

Difference was though Kanan fell to the floor right after, whereas Maul looked to check of Grievous was gone. He could have jumped after him and finished him. But he assumed he was already done for (as per the dialogue), and needed to go help Talzin.

Originally posted by Rockydonovang

Well, as the comic you've referred to shows us:
-> he can tank Maul's force attacks
-> he can physically bypass Maul's guard
-> He can react to Maul's lightsaber strikes
As other feats have shown us:
-> he's faster than maul
-> he's more durable than maul
-> he's stronger than maul
As their fights vs TCW Kenobi show us:
-> he's a better martial combatant than Maul

I'd say you can build a solid case for grievous beating Maul using the above.

Tank? Tank Mauls Tk? Do you even know what Tank means?

Being pushed off a cliff, and assumed dead by your opponent is not tanking you dimwit! Thats like saying Ashoka tanked Vaders TK when she was thrown off a the Temple edge.

Wait wait, so being TKd so far you cant be seen is nothing, but being Kicked once a few feet back is DA SHIT! You couldnt make it more apparent what an ignorant fanboy you are. Just stop this.

Oh yeah, sure Grievous is stronger and faster than Maul which is why Maul Physically Blitzed Grievous... Duh yeah obvious.

Maul always held his own against TCW Kenobi. Every single time. But if you want to play the game of anyone whose ever gotten the better of Kenobi is > Maul, then I guess Ventress, Cad Bane and Death Watchs assassin are all > Maul... I mean seriously facepalm

A better martial combatant than frigging Darth Maul? Muhahahha..

Just stop it before you make a further fool out of yourself. Next you will be claiming Old Man Maul from Rebels was Maul at his combat peak... Oh wait!

They have fought 3 times. The first time was inconclusive (although both combatants make it clear they know Maul is superior). The second Maul physically Blitzed Grievous, and the Third Maul casually TKd Grievous our of the fight.

Literally all your stringing to is the 1 kick, which is ludicrous when comparing to Mauls clear victories over Grievous. Ludicrous and Massively Desperate.

Kenobi solos.

^ Kenobi aint Sidious kid.

> implying you need to be Sidious level to take these scrubs.

But the list!!

kbro is still an retard though.

Originally posted by RealistRacism
> implying you need to be Sidious level to take these scrubs.

Sidious, Yoda, Mace or Anakin. Pretty much the top-tier list, yeah.

Although even Mace wasnt exactly blitzing Maul with back up.

Originally posted by Vitiate
But the list!!

Oh the list is Legendary...

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
I didn't realize we counted fights when only one combatant had their weapon out. You might note that the op states both fighters will have their lightsabers, hence this "fight" you're talking about can be discounted.

Would love proof that Maul's exhaustion from a couple seconds of fighting affects his bout with grievous.

Kenobi causally bisected Maul:
https://youtu.be/SKlLMRuOx10?t=265

And yet I'm sure you'd argue maul could beat tpm Kenobi.
I wonder why?

Follow up question: what's the point of pushing someone when it doesn't hurt him?

Well, as the comic you've referred to shows us:
-> he can tank Maul's force attacks
-> he can physically bypass Maul's guard
-> He can react to Maul's lightsaber strikes
As other feats have shown us:
-> he's faster than maul
-> he's more durable than maul
-> he's stronger than maul
As their fights vs TCW Kenobi show us:
-> he's a better martial combatant than Maul

I'd say you can build a solid case for grievous beating Maul using the above.

Canon Grievous loses to Maul no question. Its a different story when it comes to legends. And I'm not sure whether to take what you say about Maul seriously. If its true that you are Kbroskywalker from CV , I've seen you lowball Maul loads of times, even going far as to say Ven Zallow>Maul, but you could just be trolling ??

^ He is and he does.

Originally posted by TenebrousWay
Yeah, before he was significantly more powerful to the point he even bewildered Count Dookie.

Maul also grew significantly better.

Filoni confirmed he wasnt fully capable as a combatant with his chicken legs, and Shadow Conspiracy confirms Maul was at a new peak by the time he and Opress faced Sidious.

TCW, the gold standard of consistency.

Team 2. Maul and Kenobi are very close, but Grievous beats Savage and then they gang up on Maul.

Obi Wan and Grievous for sure. Obi gave the bros a good fight on his own

I wouldn't say, that Kenobi's team takes it for sure. Both teams are very balanced.

Hard to tell, really. Maul and Kenobi are more or less equals. Savage and Grievous are much harder to judge. Both are really inconsistent in their fights.

Savage is confirmed to be stronger which each season, but his showings are worse. For me, his powers were retconed during TCW a little bit. In season 3, Dooku, Obi-Wan and Ventress all have a difficulty to even block his strikes. In season 4 he's still strong, as he's able to everhelm Kenobi's defense (with a kind of a bit surprise on Savage's side and maul's mere presence which may be a distraction for Kenobi), but both Kenobi and Venttress are capable to block his strikes in final fight. In season 5 he's stomped by Maul, and overhelms Adi only due to his superior raw power in the Force. And then he lost to Kenobi, while having Maul's support.

Grievous is also very inconsistent. He has one or two fights, when he's capable to overhelm Kenobi a little bit, he also gives Maul much better fight then Savage did. But he also is inferior to Ventress by a very small margin. And to Kit Fisto as well, I would say.

On the other hand, as I remember Savage was confirmed by Filowni to be > B-team members, wasn't he?

I'm really not sure which team is better. A split perhaps?