How to Recognize a Fascist

Originally posted by Putinbot1
A lot on the right are Nazi's. But I'm prepared to be open, and believe you aren't.

Tell me, do you believe anyone should face prejudice due to Race or Religion?

That is precisely the emotional, anti-factual, hyperbolic behaviour that I am pointing out.

You go ahead and believe that they are Nazis, I'm sure you really, really do believe that to be the case.

Unlike the modern Left, my beliefs are not something I wish to use for virtue signalling.

And as I said in my initial post, it is peripheral crap like "racism" or "bigotry", that is ALL that The Left have to differentiate themselves from the Establishment.

They know that serious politics is not going to work, as very few people will buy into the suicidal economics of Socialism and there is even less appetite for Communism. So how does the Left bring in the punters? It tells the "minorities" that they're being oppressed, that white people are evil racists and that explains all the trouble and pain they've ever experienced in their lives.

It also convinces a bunch of vain and naive white youths that they can be the saviours of humanity, if they help to destroy "white privilege" and "empower" the coloured people.

This nonsense distracts for sorting out the economy, from adequately providing societal protections against the extremes of economic volatility and encourages the majority - native - population to feel threatened, hated and scared. Not a good situation to have.

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Originally posted by janus77
That is precisely the emotional, anti-factual, hyperbolic behaviour that I am pointing out.

You go ahead and believe that they are Nazis, I'm sure you really, really do believe that to be the case.

Unlike the modern Left, my beliefs are not something I wish to use for virtue signalling.

And as I said in my initial post, it is peripheral crap like "racism" or "bigotry", that is ALL that The Left have to differentiate themselves from the Establishment.

They know that serious politics is not going to work, as very few people will buy into the suicidal economics of Socialism and there is even less appetite for Communism. So how does the Left bring in the punters? It tells the "minorities" that they're being oppressed, that white people are evil racists and that explains all the trouble and pain they've ever experienced in their lives.

It also convinces a bunch of vain and naive white youths that they can be the saviours of humanity, if they help to destroy "white privilege" and "empower" the coloured people.

This nonsense distracts for sorting out the economy, from adequately providing societal protections against the extremes of economic volatility and encourages the majority - native - population to feel threatened, hated and scared. Not a good situation to have.

Do you believe everyone should be treated equally regardless of race and religion?

Are you going to answer it?

Originally posted by Putinbot1
A lot on the right are Nazi's. But I'm prepared to be open, and believe you aren't.

Tell me, do you believe anyone should face prejudice due to Race or Religion?

It's a two party system, Putinbot1. You'll get a lot of the worst, along with the rest.

If there were more viable options, this could be a valid criticism. But the fact is, there really isn't anywhere to go but left or right.

Originally posted by cdtm
It's a two party system, Putinbot1. You'll get a lot of the worst, along with the rest.

If there were more viable options, this could be a valid criticism. But the fact is, there really isn't anywhere to go but left or right.

cdtm, you are one of the few reasonable rightists here, I don't believe you are racist.

However, let him answer.

If you want me to answer:

Race? No, I don't give a **** about anyone's race and neither should our legal structure.

Religion? Entirely depends on the values and moral principles they derive from their interpretation of their religion. If they are in this country they should still be held to the same legal standard regardless, immigration policy should have some ideological screening involved, and people within a society should criticize the values of other people.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
What's anti factual, I provided an observation and a question. No Facts.

Do you believe everyone should be treated equally regardless of race and religion?

Are you going to answer it?

Nazi was an actual political movement that we can all read about, tell me what exactly makes "a lot of" The Right Nazis?

You're indulging in emotional hyperbole and blindly labelling them the worst thing you can imagine calling someone, rather than actually tackling their views. Is that not at all worrying?

Aside from your right on racial views, what do you think you have of value, to the political debate? What effective foreign policies, what economic and fiscal policies, what do you do about crime and poverty, how do you budget things ...

There are thousands of *more* important and vital questions, your personal views about race and religion are not really politically important. They're just personal.

Originally posted by janus77
The only fascists I've seen are the ones that call themselves "anti-fascists".

The extreme right wing are more or less a figment of the Left's imagination. The problems the Left fail to address and in fact make worse, will eventually bring about something close to what they fear, but at the moment, they are the problem and the reason why there could well be an extreme right wing.

I've never seen more emotionally unhinged people, and I used to walk through National Front demons, as a child. NF, btw, are those skin head, bomber jackets and Doc Martins wearing English nationalists.

They used to be fairly vocal, back in the early '80s, but even then, they represented a minority view.

The Alt-Right, Neo Nazis and other White Supremacist are real, they certainly exist in America, are organized and have a political agenda. I sincerely hope you're just trying to gaslight here and are not actually convinced of what you say.

A lot of the right, are definitely fascists, as Rob lists Janus. It's factual. Perhaps I should have used Neo Nazi rather than Nazi as clearly they don't belong to the Nazi Party, just share similar values, although most people just refer to Neo Nazis's as Nazis why should I play semantics.

Originally posted by Robtard
The Alt-Right, Neo Nazis and other White Supremacist are real, they certainly exist in America, are organized and have a political agenda. I sincerely hope you're just trying to gaslight here and are not actually convinced of what you say.

The better question is do you believe they are in significant numbers and driving current policy in washington dc?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
If you want me to answer:

Race? No, I don't give a **** about anyone's race and neither should our legal structure.

Religion? Entirely depends on the values and moral principles they derive from their interpretation of their religion. If they are in this country they should still be held to the same legal standard regardless, immigration policy should have some ideological screening involved, and people within a society should criticize the values of other people.

So you believe in being the thought Police even if someones religion is different and they follow the rules of your Society, if they have different morals regardless of if they act upon them they should be treated differently... That's kind of Fascist.

Originally posted by Robtard
The Alt-Right, Neo Nazis and other White Supremacist are real, they certainly exist in America, are organized and have a political agenda. I sincerely hope you're just trying to gaslight here and are not actually convinced of what you say.

It's like calling The Left Commies; Though there are structurally influential Communists in The Left, it still isn't right to call them all Commies.

Also, having a political agenda is not the same thing as having genuine political influence or even a significant political platform. They are not a factor in The US or The UK, other than as a scare tactic by The Left.

So now it's been moved to 'they're imaginary' to 'they exist but are irrelevant'? Do I have this down correctly?

Originally posted by Putinbot1
A lot of the right, are definitely fascists, as Rob lists Janus. It's factual.

You need actual evidence that these are nothing more than fringe groups.

Originally posted by Robtard
So now it's been moved to 'they're imaginary' to 'they exist but are irrelevant'? Do I have this down correctly?

Read what I wrote, I said that the whole Nazi thing is *more or less* a figment of the Left's imagination.

It is nowhere near as significant as your rhetoric posits and the rhetoric exists to validate The Left's own emotional extremist positions.

My position hasn't shifted, it is your comprehension that has changed.

A lot of the right, are definitely fascists, as Rob lists Janus. It's factual.

Alot of the left are definitely communist authoritarians, it's factual (no need to provide supporting data.)

Originally posted by snowdragon
The better question is do you believe they are in significant numbers and driving current policy in washington dc?

Originally posted by snowdragon
Alot of the left are definitely communist authoritarians, it's factual (no need to provide supporting data.)

Not really as the left don't label themselves that or have those labels attributed to them by anyone credible, the Alt right, white supremacists and Neo Nazi's do.

Originally posted by janus77
It's "moved to"?

Read what I wrote, I said that the whole Nazi thing is *more or less* a figment of the Left's imagination.

It is nowhere near as significant as your rhetoric posits and the rhetoric exists to validate The Left's own emotional extremist positions.

My position hasn't shifted, it is your comprehension that has changed.

I asked the question for clarification, so calm thyself.

Disagreed. Look how emboldened they where during the 2016 election, shows they're a prominent force, you're also not taking into account the fringe supporters of these groups, the people who won't march with them and chant hatred openly, but will find solidarity to their cause behind closed doors.

By your own reasoning, if they're politically insignificant, than so are these "Leftist" you're clamoring on about.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
It's not a better question, it's a different question.

You would be mistaken, if there is a minority of the US that is unified inder Alt-Right/NeoNazis but have no political influence then its easy to cull that group.

When they establish themselves in Washington their influence is more pronounced and now can set policy and law.

It is a better question, you're welcome 😉