Originally posted by Darth Thor
Wait.. Am I understanding this correctly? h1 thinks he will be able to throw like Bullseye in a years time?
Wrong!
I can throw something behind me and hit my intended target with enough practice.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I love how people ask h1 to provide actual proof of his claims about Bullseye, and in response all he does is provide a claim of what he personally thinks he'd be able to accomplish in a hypothetical scenario. And just expects us to take his word for it.And that's one of the big issues with h1. He thinks him claiming something without providing any actual corroborating sources, evidence, links etc. needs to be accepted at face value, and that if anyone wants to challenge it, they need to do the legwork and research to debunk his claim. But when someone else makes a claim, not only does he demand proof, he demands a ridiculously high standard of proof, and then still ends up making excuses to handwave away whatever he doesn't like.
And then has the audacity to act like the rest of us are being unreasonable for not going along with it.
Prove what?
Bulleye did not hit anything that takes superhuman accuracy to hit.
Humans have done similar or greater feats of accuracy. For example, Greg Maddox once threw 3 straight pitches from about 20yds away and the catcher's glove didn't move an inch. People have thrown a basketball from behind them from half court and scored.
You are confusing improbable with impossible. Those are two different meanings.
Now Bullseye's from Affleck's DD did impossible accuracy feats. But not this Bullseye.
Originally posted by h1a8
Wrong!
I can throw something behind me and hit my intended target with enough practice.
Perhaps if you practice for years with the same throwing object and your target remains in the same spot.
Bullseye just looked at her, turned around, threw a random object and hit her in the head KILING HER.
That is so superhuman its ridiculous.
And So above and beyond anything Deadshot has ever displayed.
Originally posted by h1a8
Prove what?
Bulleye did not hit anything that takes superhuman accuracy to hit.
Humans have done similar or greater feats of accuracy. For example, Greg Maddox once threw 3 straight pitches from about 20yds away and the catcher's glove didn't move an inch. People have thrown a basketball from behind them from half court and scored.You are confusing improbable with impossible. Those are two different meanings.
Now Bullseye's from Affleck's DD did impossible accuracy feats. But not this Bullseye.
Seriously? "Prove what?"? The claim you made about being able to replicate his feats under your specific circumstances. That's not evidence. That's your speculation. And the fact that you are acting obtuse and pretending to not know what I am talking about speaks volumes.
And thank you for proving my point. Comparing what Maddox or those people did to what Bullseye did throughout an entire season of DD is laughable. What you are doing is trying to equate real-life humans performing mostly one-off feats with individual objects they have a ton of experience with to what Bullseye did consistently throughout all his appearances, with a number of different objects. That is extremely faulty logic. For your argument to hold, you need to be able to hand those people anything, from a snowglobe to a piece of glass, to a gun, to a bottle, to kitchenware etc. and they need to be able to replicate those feats consistently with all of them.
I am not confusing anything. Nor is literally everyone else (seeing as no-one here agrees with you). You're just doing your usual thing.
Anyway, it's clear that you are just going to keep on with your nonsense trolling, regardless of what anyone says, so not going to keep wasting energy on this.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Perhaps if you practice for years with the same throwing object and your target remains in the same spot.Bullseye just looked at her, turned around, threw a random object and hit her in the head KILING HER.
That is so superhuman its ridiculous.
And So above and beyond anything Deadshot has ever displayed.
The alley feat was better with the beer bottle, but I cant find it anywhere to post.
Originally posted by tkitna
The alley feat was better with the beer bottle, but I cant find it anywhere to post.
Slacker... 😛
At 2:30
The guy who did the tribute cut that scene backwards, so it shows the first kill second. It's a trick people do to avoid copyright strikes if they are showing a lot footage they don't own.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Perhaps if you practice for years with the same throwing object and your target remains in the same spot.Bullseye just looked at her, turned around, threw a random object and hit her in the head KILING HER.
That is so superhuman its ridiculous.
And So above and beyond anything Deadshot has ever displayed.
We are talking about accuracy, not velocity or the effect. A human can turn around and hit someone in the head. It won't kill them or produce the effect that Bullseye is able to produce.
And you are an idiot by thinking that is far more impossible that shooting a ton of bullets from different guns through the same bullet hole from that distance. I already gave the reasons for why that is impossible. Remember, this is an accuracy contest after all.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Seriously? "Prove what?"? The claim you made about being able to replicate his feats under your specific circumstances. That's not evidence. That's your speculation. And the fact that you are acting obtuse and pretending to not know what I am talking about speaks volumes.And thank you for proving my point. Comparing what Maddox or those people did to what Bullseye did throughout an entire season of DD is laughable. What you are doing is trying to equate real-life humans performing mostly one-off feats with individual objects they have a ton of experience with to what Bullseye did consistently throughout all his appearances, with a number of different objects. That is extremely faulty logic. For your argument to hold, you need to be able to hand those people anything, from a snowglobe to a piece of glass, to a gun, to a bottle, to kitchenware etc. and they need to be able to replicate those feats consistently with all of them.
I am not confusing anything. Nor is literally everyone else (seeing as no-one here agrees with you). You're just doing your usual thing.
Anyway, it's clear that you are just going to keep on with your nonsense trolling, regardless of what anyone says, so not going to keep wasting energy on this.
Wrong! I never stated I can duplicate Bulleyes feats. I can't produce the necessary velocity of his throws. I stated that I can hit a target by throwing something behind me with sufficient practice.
Again you are confusing improbable with impossible. Nothing Bullseye did, in terms of accuracy, was impossible. A human could easily replicate any of his feats, in terms of accuracy only. Meaning, a human could easily throw any object Bullseyes threw to hit whatever target Bullseye hit. But the effects won't be the same. The pen will not go through the globe, the club will not go through the priest, etc.
And we are not talking about overall ability but individual feats. Each feat, on its own, can be replicated by a human, only in terms of accuracy.
Give a human the magical power of producing the necessary velocity of any random object and he too can do what Bulleyes can do.
Originally posted by h1a8
We are talking about accuracy, not velocity or the effect. A human can turn around and hit someone in the head. It won't kill them or produce the effect that Bullseye is able to produce.And you are an idiot by thinking that is far more impossible that shooting a ton of bullets from different guns through the same bullet hole from that distance. I already gave the reasons for why that is impossible. Remember, this is an accuracy contest after all.
Urm no its not, not even close.
Just use some common sense. If I was to pick up 2 different guns and point them at your head and shoot, and you had to pick up a random object and hit me in the head from behind you, who is more likely to miss?
Use your brain for once instead of your typical DC biased.
Also you need to learn to read, because this thread isnt about who is more accurate (although that is a part of it given their respective abilities), but who is more impressive.
And between Deadshot and Bullseye (I dont know about the 3rd candidate), thats Bullseye no contest.
Originally posted by h1a8
We are talking about accuracy, not velocity or the effect. A human can turn around and hit someone in the head. It won't kill them or produce the effect that Bullseye is able to produce.And you are an idiot by thinking that is far more impossible that shooting a ton of bullets from different guns through the same bullet hole from that distance. I already gave the reasons for why that is impossible. Remember, this is an accuracy contest after all.
Wrong! I never stated I can duplicate Bulleyes feats. I can't produce the necessary velocity of his throws. I stated that I can hit a target by throwing something behind me with sufficient practice.
Again you are confusing improbable with impossible. Nothing Bullseye did, in terms of accuracy, was impossible. A human could easily replicate any of his feats, in terms of accuracy only. Meaning, a human could easily throw any object Bullseyes threw to hit whatever target Bullseye hit. But the effects won't be the same. The pen will not go through the globe, the club will not go through the priest, etc.
And we are not talking about overall ability but individual feats. Each feat, on its own, can be replicated by a human, only in terms of accuracy.
Give a human the magical power of producing the necessary velocity of any random object and he too can do what Bulleyes can do.
If a human can't replicate his feats, that makes the feats superhuman.
Originally posted by h1a8
We are talking about accuracy, not velocity or the effect. A human can turn around and hit someone in the head. It won't kill them or produce the effect that Bullseye is able to produce.And you are an idiot by thinking that is far more impossible that shooting a ton of bullets from different guns through the same bullet hole from that distance. I already gave the reasons for why that is impossible. Remember, this is an accuracy contest after all.
Wrong! I never stated I can duplicate Bulleyes feats. I can't produce the necessary velocity of his throws. I stated that I can hit a target by throwing something behind me with sufficient practice.
Again you are confusing improbable with impossible. Nothing Bullseye did, in terms of accuracy, was impossible. A human could easily replicate any of his feats, in terms of accuracy only. Meaning, a human could easily throw any object Bullseyes threw to hit whatever target Bullseye hit. But the effects won't be the same. The pen will not go through the globe, the club will not go through the priest, etc.
And we are not talking about overall ability but individual feats. Each feat, on its own, can be replicated by a human, only in terms of accuracy.
Give a human the magical power of producing the necessary velocity of any random object and he too can do what Bulleyes can do.
If a human cannot replicate his screen feats with his shown degree of accuracy, as well as do it with his level of consistency and variety of objects, then it is superhuman. Also, I made the thread and OP. My OP asked who people thought most impressive? This can be down to individual feats or overall ability across multiple feats. You don't get to add in your own thread specifications.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
If a human cannot replicate his screen feats with his shown degree of accuracy, as well as do it with his level of consistency and variety of objects, then it is superhuman. Also, I made the thread and OP. My OP asked who people thought most impressive? This can be down to individual feats or overall ability across multiple feats. You don't get to add in your own thread specifications.
Each feat on its own, in terms of accuracy, is NOT superhuman.
If you are arguing that doing ALL those feats, in terms of accuracy, as consistently as Bulleye did is superhuman then that’s a different argument.
You have to prove why it is impossible for a human to do. I believe that a human can practice and train throwing various objects at targets. Bullseye could have trained for years throwing similar objects that he has thrown in the show. Don’t confuse the impossible effect as the aim. The aim is very achievable by a human.
What about Bullseye using a sniper scope and a pistol to ricochet bullets off a fire escape across the street to hit someone several floors above him something a human can replicate?
Bullseye also showed he naturally had the ability as a child; something you would have known if you watched the show as he killed his coach with a no look ricochet after throwing a perfect game and getting subbed out.
@ the idiot who still hasn't learned to use the correct quote aka H1:
The OP question and argument has always been the same. You just tried to twist it to suit your personal narrative, like you usually do.
And there you go again. "I believe", "could have". What you personally believe is not evidence, no matter how much you say it is. No one here is under any obligation to consider what you personally believe as fact, especially when you never, ever do anyone else that same courtesy. How you can continue to be such a massive hypocrite in every thread you post and not realise it truly boggles the mind.
So, you can state what you personally think people could replicate with enough training all you want. You can speculate what you personally think Bullseye did offscreen all you want. Until you actually prove any of it, none of it holds any weight here.
Originally posted by Silent Master
You keep claiming that Bullseye's feats aren't superhuman, yet you have provided no actual proof to back your claim up. all you've done is give your opinion.
I keep claiming no such thing. You are the silent master of leaving out critical words of people's post in order to change the meaning of what they said in order to create a strawman.
You do this all the time.
Originally posted by KingD19Post the feat.
What about Bullseye using a sniper scope and a pistol to ricochet bullets off a fire escape across the street to hit someone several floors above him something a human can replicate?Bullseye also showed he naturally had the ability as a child; something you would have known if you watched the show as he killed his coach with a no look ricochet after throwing a perfect game and getting subbed out.