Hela vs Destroyer

Started by TheVaultDweller12 pages
Originally posted by h1a8
Well if those blasts are weaker then they have absolutely no bearing on what the Destroyer's blasts would do to her.

Except it does. Using your logic, Luke Cage being able to completely no-sell a taser would have zero bearing on his ability to at least partially resist stronger electrical attacks.

If Hela can no-sell ship lasers, this tells us that her armour is at least somewhat resistant to Asgardian energy weapons. Which will provide at least some degree of protection against the Destroyer.

Also, the Destroyer's blast couldn't even kill one of the Warriors Three, at 1:28:

YouTube video

Not to mention it is kind of slow. Based on her fight against Asgard's army, Hela dances circles around it. And if Sif could pierce it, Hela will likely have no issues. And unlike Sif, Hela can use her blades as projectiles.

This is really not rocket science.

The Destroyer phucking sucked.

Hela stomps.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Except it does. Using your logic, Luke Cage being able to completely no-sell a taser would have zero bearing on his ability to at least partially resist stronger electrical attacks.

If Hela can no-sell ship lasers, this tells us that her armour is at least somewhat resistant to Asgardian energy weapons. Which will provide at least some degree of protection against the Destroyer.

Also, the Destroyer's blast couldn't even kill one of the Warriors Three, at 1:28:

YouTube video

Not to mention it is kind of slow. Based on her fight against Asgard's army, Hela dances circles around it. And if Sif could pierce it, Hela will likely have no issues. And unlike Sif, Hela can use her blades as projectiles.

This is really not rocket science.

Remember showings are either high or low. You can't use a low showing as the standard. Destroyer's blasts easily killed frost giants. Also the blast didn't hit any of the warriors three.
Those ship blasts have no feats.

Also you forget about the "egg" principle.
If you apply a little less than the minimum force of cracking the egg to the egg then it would appear that the egg no sold the force. But apply a little more then the egg cracks.

Prove that Hela's blades are more durable than Destroyer's armor?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Why does healing outside Asgard require proof?

Because it is a claim.

Originally posted by h1a8
Because it is a claim.

We know she has a healing factor because we've seen it, even you admit that. you're just claiming that the healing factor only works on Asgard.

The burden is on you.

Originally posted by Silent Master
We know she has a healing factor because we've seen it, even you admit that. you're just claiming that the healing factor only works on Asgard.

The burden is on you.

I'm not claiming anything. I don't know how her healing would work outside of Asgard. It's only speculation. Others just can't claim her to be able to heal outside Asgard without some good evidence.

Originally posted by h1a8
I'm not claiming anything. I don't know how her healing would work outside of Asgard. It's only speculation. Others just can't claim her to be able to heal outside Asgard without some good evidence.

Being on Asgard doesnt change powersets. Youve been explained this many times, but you insist on continued trolling.

Originally posted by h1a8
I'm not claiming anything. I don't know how her healing would work outside of Asgard. It's only speculation. Others just can't claim her to be able to heal outside Asgard without some good evidence.

Sure you are, you're just trying to be clever about it. Nowhere in any of the movies has it ever been stated that she has different powers outside of Asgard. Therefore saying that people need to provide proof that she can heal outside of Asgard is just more of your trolling.

We are talking about that thing thor chumped in his first movie, yeah?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Sure you are, you're just trying to be clever about it. Nowhere in any of the movies has it ever been stated that she has different powers outside of Asgard. Therefore saying that people need to provide proof that she can heal outside of Asgard is just more of your trolling.

You can't claim something without evidence. There's nothing clever about it.
It's been stated that she draws power from Asgard. It's possible she draws this power to heal and recover or heal faster and infinite times. After Thor struck her he stated that the longer she is in Asgard the more powerful she gets.

You have to provide evidence that she can heal outside of Asgard. After that you have to show to what extent.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Being on Asgard doesnt change powersets. Youve been explained this many times, but you insist on continued trolling.

Prove it then.
Prove that she can heal outside of Asgard without using Asgard as a power source. And prove to what extent she can heal (how fast and how often you). Because otherwise you are speculating.

Exactly and you are essentially claiming that her power set is different outside of Asgard, therefore you have to provide proof.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Exactly and you are essentially claiming that her power set is different outside of Asgard, therefore you have to provide proof.

I'm saying that we do not know.
How do you know if she can heal as fast as she can in Asgard (if at all)?
How do you know if she can heal an indefinite amount of times outside of Asgard?

Again,, the movie never once stated or even hinted that she had a different power set outside of Asgard. Therefore if you want to claim it's possible, the burden is on you.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Again,, the movie never once stated or even hinted that she had a different power set outside of Asgard. Therefore if you want to claim it's possible, the burden is on you.

Stop using other people's arguments a lot. It makes you look dumb.

Power set has nothing to do with using Asgard as a power source to heal oneself.
And it's not just about the ability to heal but how fast and how many times.
So let's assume Hela can heal. You have to prove how many times and how fast.

Prove that she uses Asgard as a power source in order to heal.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Prove that she uses Asgard as a power source in order to heal.
I gave evidence to support it. She draws power from Asgard. Its possible she uses this to regenerate.

And I stated assuming she can heal outside of Asgard then how many times?

IOW, you can't actually prove your claim which means we can ignore it.

If she can heal outside of asgard is irrelevant. Hela physically overpowered thor twice. Once on earth when she palmed/broke his hammer and once in the bifrost. She's, at the minimum, as strong as thor and thor beat the destroyer.

H1 just likes to troll.

Originally posted by h1a8

Power set has nothing to do with using Asgard as a power source to heal oneself.

WTH is this? She uses Asgard as a healing source?

Stop making stuff up all the time.

She gets her power from Asgard SAME AS THOR. Did you notice any visible difference in Thors durability and other powers on and off Asgard?

No you didnt. Its an amp they get on Asgard, but theres no visible change to the way their powers work.

We already know she was massively more powerful than Thor off Asgard, and we have seen Thor instant heal off Asgard, so literally no reason to think Helas healing wont work exactly the same, and nothing to prove in that regard.