Hela vs Destroyer

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Originally posted by Silent Master
Exactly and you are essentially claiming that her power set is different outside of Asgard, therefore you have to provide proof.
Nope!
Not claiming anything. Her power set could be slightly different or weaker or gradually getting weaker outside (one of the three) outside of Asgard.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
WTH is this? She uses Asgard as a healing source?

Stop making stuff up all the time.

She gets her power from Asgard SAME AS THOR. Did you notice any visible difference in Thors durability and other powers on and off Asgard?

No you didnt. Its an amp they get on Asgard, but theres no visible change to the way their powers work.

We already know she was massively more powerful than Thor off Asgard, and we have seen Thor instant heal off Asgard, so literally no reason to think Helas healing wont work exactly the same, and nothing to prove in that regard.

I'm not saying that she does but that she possibly does. This possibility forces a member to have to prove that she can heal just as effectively or as many times as she can while away from Asgard.

Originally posted by h1a8
That's if the blades are as durable as the destroyer.

There's no reason to think they aren't when Lady Sif stabbed through the thing easily

Originally posted by h1a8
Nope!
Not claiming anything. Her power set could be slightly different or weaker or gradually getting weaker outside (one of the three) outside of Asgard.

I'm not saying that she does but that she possibly does. This possibility forces a member to have to prove that she can heal just as effectively or as many times as she can while away from Asgard.

Until you provide proof, all your speculations about what might be possible will be ignored.

What bullshit is this? People don't need to disprove someone's personal speculation because they think there is a "possibility" of something.

Using that reasoning, anyone can go into any thread, assert something based on personal speculation or some flimsy "possibility", and demand others prove it wrong. That's not how honest, fair debating in good faith works.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Until you provide proof, all your speculations about what might be possible will be ignored.
That doesnt change that the fact of the possibility. So no one can claim that Hela can heal indefinitely outside of Asgard. Therefore she can't. And therefore Destroyer wins.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
What bullshit is this? People don't need to disprove someone's personal speculation because they think there is a "possibility" of something.

Using that reasoning, anyone can go into any thread, assert something based on personal speculation or some flimsy "possibility", and demand others prove it wrong. That's not how honest, fair debating in good faith works.

The possibility of something else forces someone to prove their claim (not disprove the possibility of that something).

In other words, how can someone say that Hela can heal indefinitely outside of Asgard without proof when there is evidence to support that she draws power from Asgard while on Asgard.

Originally posted by juggerman
There's no reason to think they aren't when Lady Sif stabbed through the thing easily
Didnt she stabbed through the slots?
And why would Hela's blades be equal or more durable than Sif's blades?
Sif's blades can be 10x more durable than Hela's, yet both can penetrate Asgardians.

Originally posted by h1a8
That doesnt change that the fact of the possibility. So no one can claim that Hela can heal indefinitely outside of Asgard. Therefore she can't. And therefore Destroyer wins.

You have provided no proof, so your baseless speculation is being ignored.

Originally posted by h1a8
Didnt she stabbed through the slots?
And why would Hela's blades be equal or more durable than Sif's blades?
Sif's blades can be 10x more durable than Hela's, yet both can penetrate Asgardians.

No
Hela's blades have better feats
Can you prove Sif's are 10x more durable?

Originally posted by h1a8
Didnt she stabbed through the slots?
And why would Hela's blades be equal or more durable than Sif's blades?
Sif's blades can be 10x more durable than Hela's, yet both can penetrate Asgardians.

What proof do you have that Sif's blades can be ten times more durable?

Didn't Thor or some other Asgardian take one of Destroyer's blasts without dying?

There was even going to be a scene where Hela rips apart the Destroyer in Ragnarok.

https://screenrant.com/hela-destroyer-thor-ragnarok/

Originally posted by Nevan
Didn't Thor or some other Asgardian take one of Destroyer's blasts without dying?

There was even going to be a scene where Hela rips apart the Destroyer in Ragnarok.

https://screenrant.com/hela-destroyer-thor-ragnarok/

That alone is all the proof I need.

Destroyer is weak Hela is pretty formidable.

Originally posted by juggerman
No
Hela's blades have better feats
Can you prove Sif's are 10x more durable?

No they don't. Those blades suck on average. The only feats they have is piercing Asgardians.

Originally posted by Silent Master
What proof do you have that Sif's blades can be ten times more durable?

They can be a billion times. They can be 1.2 times. They can be 1.00001 times. Who cares?

Originally posted by h1a8
No they don't. Those blades suck on average. The only feats they have is piercing Asgardians.

They also took out their battleships. 1:36 and 1:46:

YouTube video

Originally posted by h1a8
They can be a billion times. They can be 1.2 times. They can be 1.00001 times. Who cares?

You do, since you're the one that brought it up. Now either provide proof or your speculation will be ignored.

Here’s an interesting thought:

Mjolnir stops the Destroyer beam and manages to shove it back to into its face and defeat it.

Hela palms Mjolnir and crushes it barehanded effortlessly. And does it outside of Asgard after being away from it for centuries.

Hela >>> Mjolnir. This Hela can shove the Destroyer beam back into its face.

Hmmm.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Here’s an interesting thought:

Mjolnir stops the Destroyer beam and manages to shove it back to into its face and defeat it.

Hela palms Mjolnir and crushes it barehanded effortlessly. And does it outside of Asgard after being away from it for centuries.

Hela >>> Mjolnir. This Hela can shove the Destroyer beam back into its face.

Hmmm.

1. Hela could have had ties to Mjolnir to achieve the feat.
2. That could be a low showing for Mjolnir since Hela displayed no other strength feat even in the 10% range of that feat (assuming it was all strength). Therefore, going by all her other showings and Mjolnir peak showings then she can't crush Mjolnir.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You do, since you're the one that brought it up. Now either provide proof or your speculation will be ignored.

The point is we don't know without feats. Someone just can't claim Hela's blades are as durable or more durable than Sif's sword without proof.

Originally posted by juggerman
They also took out their battleships. 1:36 and 1:46:

YouTube video

Those ships look like they were made of wood. There is no way one should think that Sif's sword couldn't penetrate those ships.

Originally posted by h1a8
1. Hela could have had ties to Mjolnir to achieve the feat.
2. That could be a low showing for Mjolnir since Hela displayed no other strength feat even in the 10% range of that feat (assuming it was all strength). Therefore, going by all her other showings and Mjolnir peak showings then she can't crush Mjolnir.

1. Speculative, thus irrelevant and thus ignored.

2. Wrong. She crushed it thus she can. The showing excuse only works if she has no showing of crushing Mjolnir, w/c she does. Or if she has showings contradicting it, w/c she doesn’t. Thus Hela pimp hand > Destroyer beam. /thread.