Count Dooku vs Darth Vader (VOTE)

Originally posted by AncientPower
George Lucas literally confirmed that pre-suit Vader was as powerful as Darth Sidious. After Mustafar, he was on the tier of Dooku and Maul, characters Sheev has essentially one-shotted. Lucas states his ability to use the Force is literally 'curbed' at that point due to losing his limbs. There is no debate, at all.

Anakin's curbstomp of Dooku was a Yoda tier feat, and Knightfall Vader was even more powerful than base Anakin with 'permission' to use his full power. Vader's best feats are woeful in comparison.

What does any of this have to do with OT Vader vs Dooku?

Originally posted by quanchi112
What powerful force user save Snoke has ever won due to this alone?

Sidious did to Dooku.

In TCW... whilst Dooku wasn't expecting it... Considering canon's force barriers have a funny way of working, it isn't impressive 👆

Claiming ESB Vader > Knightfall Vader > Anakin >> Dooku.

ESB Vader > Knightfall Vader > Anakin >> Dooku > Old Ben >>> ESB Vader. Very clear, irrefutable scaling.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Claiming ESB Vader > Knightfall Vader > Anakin >> Dooku.

Which is backed up and actually makes logical sense if you think about it.

No, it isn't. Your blind denial is the only illogical thing here.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
What does any of this have to do with OT Vader vs Dooku?

Sidious did to Dooku.

Originally posted by DarthCaedus77
per say

It's per se.

Originally posted by DarthCaedus77
Which makes logical sense if you think about it.

Well, then go ahead and post what you're "thinking about it," and we'll see how logical it is.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
It's per se.

Well, then go ahead and post what you're "thinking about it," and we'll see how logical it is.

Wow, one gramatical mistake. Really noteworthy and worth mentioning.

And 7 different quotes list Vader as more powerful than he was pre suit, do I really have to

Originally posted by RealistRacism
In TCW... whilst Dooku wasn't expecting it... Considering canon's force barriers have a funny way of working, it isn't impressive 👆

And yet you complain about Vader not ragdolling Ahsoka all over the place.

Surely you can see Your own excuses and double standards by this point.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Dooku never actively resisted he was submissive.

Nice excuse. But thats all it is. An excuse.

Resisting a choke is 100%natural.

Let me choke you and you try your best not to resist. See how that works out for you.

You are just butthurt because Sidious did that to an actual Sith Lord, whilst best Snoke could do that to was a Padawan.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
And yet you complain about Vader not ragdolling Ahsoka all over the place.

Surely you can see Your own excuses and double standards by this point.

Because my statements about Vader were completely serious, and not deliberate lowballing 👆

You on the hand, are using this showing to have a dig at Dooku when you're well aware of the context. Such a slimy tactic.

Originally posted by RealistRacism
Because my statements about Vader were completely serious, and not deliberate lowballing 👆

You on the hand, are using this showing to have a dig at Dooku when you're well aware of the context. Such a slimy tactic.

Well about time you came out 👆

Im having a dig at Dooku? Really? I have to question the level of Dooku fandom it would take for you to come to that conclusion.

Would me saying Sidious ragdolled Maul and Opress together be a dig at Maul as well?

And If you read the context I was actually comparing how ridiculously more impressive Palpatine is than Snoke.

But still below Malak 👆

Originally posted by DarthCaedus77
Wow, one gramatical mistake. Really noteworthy and worth mentioning.

It's grammatical. ❌

Spoiler:
Also, the word you're looking for is spelling.

Originally posted by DarthCaedus77
And 7 different quotes list Vader as more powerful than he was pre suit, do I really have to?

You don't have to do anything. 😬

But if you intend to meaningfully participate in a discussion, then yes, you're going to be expected to think and to relay your thoughts. Particularly after ending a post with, "X makes logical sense when you think about it."

NewGuy DESTROYS low IQ individual with no grasp on the English language in an unimportant conversation 😎

Originally posted by RealistRacism
(*insert high-profile user here*) DESTROYS low IQ individual with no grasp on the English language in an unimportant conversation 😎

KMC in a nutshell.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What powerful force user save Snoke has ever won due to this alone? If yoda was not able to best him with his power what leads you to believe Vader wins?

He used Vader to manipulate Ren. Vader can be thought of highly but still fall before Dooku. Dookus showings are supeioror to a suited Vader in the films.

Per AOTC script, Dooku was losing to Yoda, that's the whole reason why he retreated

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Nice excuse. But thats all it is. An excuse.

Resisting a choke is 100%natural.

Let me choke you and you try your best not to resist. See how that works out for you.

You are just butthurt because Sidious did that to an actual Sith Lord, whilst best Snoke could do that to was a Padawan.

Her power levels rose and were equal to Ren as explained. Snoke treated an active opponent like she was someone with no power against him. Sidious not even close despite your bias towards him.