Count Dooku vs Darth Vader (VOTE)

Started by quanchi1127 pages
Originally posted by Bentley
How do you figure it was his choice? Do you understand what cuck means? 😕

One on end is the masochistic cuckold who enjoys humiliations, degradation, and other demeaning activities at the hands of his wife and her lover.

Dooku enjoyed it especially when Sidious said, doooo it.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Lmao

Top tier argument right here.

That was not my entire argument but you deleting the rest and failing to address is speaks volumes.

Originally posted by TheIndyJedi
He was likely holding back, as Dooku was a great Jedi once and his fall to the darkside was a huge loss for the jedi order. Bloodlusted Yoda could stomp Vader and Dooku at the same time.

Considering the stakes and the dialogue in the film prior to tracking Dooku along with two Jedi on the line that is absurd.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Considering the stakes and the dialogue in the film prior to tracking Dooku along with two Jedi on the line that is absurd.

Yoda has a special bond with Dooku as per multiple sources and didn't want to hurt him. Even in the film which you take as the only canon it appears that way.

Originally posted by DarthCaedus77
Yoda has a special bond with Dooku as per multiple sources and didn't want to hurt him. Even in the film which you take as the only canon it appears that way.
So by him trying to defeat him with a lightsaber that says he was holding back. Nothing leads to that conclusion save your own personal bias.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So by him trying to defeat him with a lightsaber that says he was holding back. Nothing leads to that conclusion save your own personal bias.

And multiple other sources but hey, whatever fits your bias. Yoda stomped him regardless.

Originally posted by DarthCaedus77
And multiple other sources but hey, whatever fits your bias. Yoda stomped him regardless.
Originally posted by DarthCaedus77
Yoda has a special bond with Dooku as per multiple sources

Clearly stated in the last few episodes of TCW 👆

Plus Yoda never even attacked Dooku with TK. So yeah, ignore Quans idiocy.

Originally posted by DarthCaedus77
And multiple other sources but hey, whatever fits your bias. Yoda stomped him regardless.
Provide the sources. Yoda did not defeat him and he escaped. Yoda failed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Provide the sources. Yoda did not defeat him and he escaped. Yoda failed.

The final arc of TCW S6 makes it clear what a strong bond Yoda has with Dooku and how hard it was for Yoda to learn he turned to the dark side.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
The final arc of TCW S6 makes it clear what a strong bond Yoda has with Dooku and how hard it was for Yoda to learn he turned to the dark side.
So? That does not mean he was not activity trying to defeat him. We know how hard it was for Kenobi but he rekt Vader. Acting like he held back with fellow Jedi on the line is just cringeworthy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
One on end is the masochistic cuckold who enjoys humiliations, degradation, and other demeaning activities at the hands of his wife and her lover.

Dooku enjoyed it especially when Sidious said, doooo it.

Your Dooku fantasies have no bearing in our discussion.

If you start calling me on using words wrong try to do so yourself before getting all high and mighty 😬

Originally posted by Bentley
Your Dooku fantasies have no bearing in our discussion.

If you start calling me on using words wrong try to do so yourself before getting all high and mighty 😬

Cucking is a choice because they allow their woman to freely cheat on them. He realized Sidious cheated so to speak and just allowed it. He did not even try to fight for his own life. Appalling.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Cucking is a choice because they allow their woman to freely cheat on them. He realized Sidious cheated so to speak and just allowed it. He did not even try to fight for his own life. Appalling.

He got both his hands chopped off and Sheev then revealed his betrayal, essentially leaving him unarmed and broken facing the two strongest force users in the galaxy. You compare this to getting a man into your wife's bed and pretend there is some degree to accuracy to it.

By your absurd amount of reaching you could apply the term to Snoke as much 👆

Originally posted by AncientPower
George Lucas literally confirmed that pre-suit Vader was as powerful as Darth Sidious. After Mustafar, he was on the tier of Dooku and Maul, characters Sheev has essentially one-shotted. Lucas states his ability to use the Force is literally 'curbed' at that point due to losing his limbs. There is no debate, at all.

Anakin's curbstomp of Dooku was a Yoda tier feat, and Knightfall Vader was even more powerful than base Anakin with 'permission' to use his full power. Vader's best feats are woeful in comparison.

Vader should be the winner. Vader has an advantage over Dooku. Superior physical strength(assuming EU Vader).

But question is: does op mean ROTS/ROTJ novels/EU or movies/Disney canon?

@Ap “He wasn’t what he was meant to become”

Pretty clear it’s referring to potential. Referring to his inferiority to the emperor was because Sidious grew in strength alongside Vader, referring to a passage of time, nothing indicates he can’t surpass ROTS Sidious, he wasn’t on Sidious’s level due to growth on Sidious’s part, he was equal to ROTS Sidious during Knightfal and inferior to the present Sidious after, as in he couldn’t surpass Sidious due to the letters growth, as stated above nothing indicates he can’t beat past Sidious, especially when 7 quotes put him as more powerful than his pre suit self.

EU Vader>Dooku
Movie Vader — Dooku could go either way. But I am inclined towards Dooku.

Wait, how many quotes state Vader is more powerful than Anakin? I've suddenly forgotten and need someone to tell me ten more times. But don't actually post the quotes, just tell me about them in every thread okay?

Do you need quotes saying that he grew in power after he got his suit?

“I could feel my apprentice growing stronger everyday.“

—Dark Lords Of The Sith

However I think Sidious refers to Vader's alignment? Meaning he was more and more shifting to Darkness(after all Palpatine thinks the Dark Side>Light Side). And if the concept that Vader<Anakin is wrong, then Anakin/Vader is pretty much a banal Sith Lord. It wouldn't make sense he asked for Luke's help to overthrow Palpatine when he could do it himself.