Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Started by AlbertoJohnAvil1,926 pages

Originally posted by cdtm
Woah woah lets not get crazy now.

Maybe have him prove an objectively bad show is better. Like.. Jessica Jones. Or Luke Cage. Or Punisher.

You know, the bad shows.

Punisher/Daredevil are better (simply because they have the kind of gritty but seemingly real life effect) the story makes it feel like something that could possibly happen (aside from the whole superpowers). It kind of makes you think of the worst case scenario that’s seemingly possible

watching watchmen right now, not as good as doom patrol but still better than those netflix superheroes shows

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Prove it

Not at all.

You made the claim first. So you prove yours first.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Punisher/Daredevil are better (simply because they have the kind of gritty but seemingly real life effect) the story makes it feel like something that could possibly happen (aside from the whole superpowers). It kind of makes you think of the worst case scenario that’s seemingly possible

So because they have things that appeal to you more, they're better.

That's not how it works.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You made the claim first. So you prove yours first.

So because they have things that appeal to you more, they're better.

That's not how it works.

Agrreed. 👆

Spoiler:
IRONFISTISOBJECTIVELYGOOD.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You made the claim first. So you prove yours first.

So because they have things that appeal to you more, they're better.

That's not how it works.

And the goalposts are moved once more by Albert.

Iron Fist. Better than Doom Patrol. Prove it, Al.

Worst Marvel tv shows...hmmmm, I would say Iron Fist, AoS and ummm...Inhumans and I think that's about it.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Worst Marvel tv shows...hmmmm, I would say Iron Fist, AoS and ummm...Inhumans and I think that's about it.

Oh yeah, Agents of Shield got really bad. That and Inhumans are terrible.

So two bad shows. Two bad shows, total. 👆

Did you guys watch Cloak and Dagger?

Runaways started ok then went downhill fast.

Then there's The Gifted.....

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
GoT 4 - 5.

After that....*silence*

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Did you guys watch Cloak and Dagger?

Runaways started ok then went downhill fast.

Then there's The Gifted.....


I actually think the opposite. I think the build up to the runaways (actually running away) was ill conceived but after they left home it got better.

I like Cloak & Dagger, was a fun watch. Ditto for Gifted

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Except that's not what happened, you and Galan are both wrong point blank. straight up.

what you stans usually state is that Superman DIRECTLY destroyed the multiverse, which is a hard no. WF created the alt multiverse in order to lay it in order to fool the Judges/Hands into thinking this is the true evolved state. While Mxy and Batmite were unwritting reality on Prime Earth, that provided the Crisis energy/opportunity the WF needed (and a small time window) in order to hammer the anvil and set the alt universe.
By crash landing and hammering WF before he could do it, Superman ended up interrupting the process. The interruption is what caused the multiverse to be destroyed. No direct influence from Superman.
That's pretty much the gist of it. By interrupting WF, superman was pretty much indirectly responsible for the destruction of the multiverse. But he never directly punched/hammered/affected it. It's not up for dispute, period. How you feel about it is irrelevant, it will never be a "Feat".


On panel evidence to support your claims?

Originally posted by -Pr-
You made the claim first. So you prove yours first.

So because they have things that appeal to you more, they're better.

That's not how it works.

Prove what? You can't prove an opinion!

that's ****ing stupid. Which show is better is purely subjective. It's an interpretive measure, not a defined one. I have plenty. And every single one is subjective. You stated a specific show Doom Patrol was better than, I disagreed. Because you're wrong, point blank.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
On panel evidence to support your claims?

It's called reading a comic. Do that then address what i said

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Prove what? You can't prove an opinion!

that's ****ing stupid. Which show is better is purely subjective. It's an interpretive measure, not a defined one. I have plenty. And every single one is subjective. You stated a specific show Doom Patrol was better than, I disagreed. Because you're wrong, point blank.

It's called reading a comic. Do that then address what i said

Well, From what I read. The comics never stated such things though. I mean Shayne(who also is a creation of WFs multiverse) literally living well after WFs multiverse was destroyed.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Worst Marvel tv shows...hmmmm, I would say Iron Fist, AoS and ummm...Inhumans and I think that's about it.
AoS s1 is terrible but its a good show from mid s2 onwards

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Well, From what I read. The comics never stated such things though. I mean Shayne(who also is a creation of WFs multiverse) literally living well after WFs multiverse was destroyed.

Shayne is made out of possibility, and since Shayne notes he "feel like he exists", It's HIGHLY possible that possibility is keeping him in the era, EVEN after The alternate reality was destroyed. Alsoit could be possible he survived because he connected with MM and Hawkgirl early when they met, so that may have anchored him:

As mentioned here, Sahyne is pure possibility. him wishing/feeling to exist could be keeping him here:

All because of his belief, its weird but it happens.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Shayne is made out of possibility, and since Shayne notes he "feel like he exists", It's HIGHLY possible that possibility is keeping him in the era, EVEN after The alternate reality was destroyed. Alsoit could be possible he survived because he connected with MM and Hawkgirl early when they met, so that may have anchored him:

As mentioned here, Sahyne is pure possibility. him wishing/feeling to exist could be keeping him here:

All because of his belief, its weird but it happens.

So no definitive proof to answer my question? Just your conjectures 😕 ?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Prove what? You can't prove an opinion!

that's ****ing stupid. Which show is better is purely subjective. It's an interpretive measure, not a defined one. I have plenty. And every single one is subjective. You stated a specific show Doom Patrol was better than, I disagreed. Because you're wrong, point blank.

It's called reading a comic. Do that then address what i said

Except that you said:

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Iron Fist dwarfs any DC show regardless.

You started this, not me.

And no, which show is better isn't purely subjective. There are objective measurements of quality in TV shows as in most things. Saying you prefer Iron Fist is not the same as saying Iron Fist is better.

Also, am not sure how one can say someone is wrong, period, about a subjective thing.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So no definitive proof to answer my question? Just your conjectures 😕 ?

Actually there is if you read the comic like i told you to

Read what Alpheus said..
"No Shayne, You believed in this league enough to survive the rest of my multiverse collapsing"

Originally posted by -Pr-
Except that you said:

You started this, not me.

And no, which show is better isn't purely subjective. There are objective measurements of quality in TV shows as in most things. Saying you prefer Iron Fist is not the same as saying Iron Fist is better.

No, there isn't, there is no objective standard or measurement that is immutable.
Halo is considered by many a masterpiece. Yet some don't like it. Final Fantasy is the most popular RPG ever. Yet some people hate it.

All you can say is YOU think it's better because of A, B or C.