Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
What? When u used door to open im thinking of standard doors. Like push or pull as in an overwhelming majority of them. Nonsensical because it's a specific item with specific ways of moving it. Then there are roll up doors to lift and so on and so forth. Using doors in general is a faulty comparison yet u used a door in hopes of controlling the answer? Beats me... U were better off using a rock in a similar situation like in the comic.

My point was that the comic merely specified that he tried to budge Hulk and couldn't.

Adding anything else to it (like lifting or anything else) is just biased speculation in a desperate attempt to build a narrative, that Hulk is immune to TK.

Just because I say I failed to budge a door, doesn't mean anything else.

Just because I say I couldn't budge a screw (or bolt) doesn't mean anything else. Simples.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
This is how we spend our weekends.

Great galaxies.

Anybody has a miniature black hole that could kill us all and end this?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
My point was that the comic merely specified that he tried to budge Hulk and couldn't.

Adding anything else to it (like lifting or anything else) is just biased speculation in a desperate attempt to build a narrative, that Hulk is immune to TK.

Just because I say I failed to budge a door, doesn't mean anything else.

Just because I say I couldn't budge a screw (or bolt) doesn't mean anything else. Simples.

So the angrier Hulk gets, the more unliftable Hulk gets? Is that what carver is proposing here?

...or was being unable to budge x1 Hulk unit just a shit showing for Cable's TK?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Im actually at a house party. Covid and all.

Must be a great party, f*cking lit, if you're kmcing about the Hulk.

I learned something today:

Politics are something best to avoid.

I mean, people are CRAZY when it comes to it.

I say something like "Suicide victims are selfish people who deserve no sympathy!", and half a dozen people treat me like I am the crazy one.

So that's it, I'm out of GDF. Gonna stick to comic posts here from now on.

If I can't budge an item, I can not lift it. It's just that simple.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
My point was that the comic merely specified that he tried to budge Hulk and couldn't.

Adding anything else to it (like lifting or anything else) is just biased speculation in a desperate attempt to build a narrative, that Hulk is immune to TK.

Just because I say I failed to budge a door, doesn't mean anything else.

Just because I say I couldn't budge a screw (or bolt) doesn't mean anything else. Simples.

The same screw that you can budge that I'm guessing is screwed inside of something, will you be able to lift it? The same door you can open, can you lift it open? The same car you can't budge, can you lift it? If you can budge something, you can not lift it. Unless you're saying you can lift the door open, lol.

Originally posted by carver9
The same screw that you can budge that I'm guessing is screwed inside of something, will you be able to lift it? The same door you can open, can you lift it open? The same car you can't budge, can you lift it? If you can budge something, you can not lift it. Unless you're saying you can lift the door open, lol.

Juggernaut is unstoppable unless his feet aren't touching the ground. Same principle.

If the screw is screwed into a piece of wood, you bet I can lift it easily.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
If the screw is screwed into a piece of wood, you bet I can lift it easily.

The same screw you can lift easily, you can budge it as well. 😒😒😒

Originally posted by cdtm
Juggernaut is unstoppable unless his feet aren't touching the ground. Same principle.

He's unstoppable if his ft isn't touching the ground (Jean Grey scene).

Originally posted by carver9
The same screw that you can budge that I'm guessing is screwed inside of something, will you be able to lift it? The same door you can open, can you lift it open? The same car you can't budge, can you lift it? If you can budge something, you can not lift it. Unless you're saying you can lift the door open, lol.

Originally posted by Smurph
Everybody agrees that Cable couldn’t budge Hulk. You think Cable couldn’t lift Hulk.

Normally if you can’t budge a thing, you probably can’t lift it. Hulk’s an anomaly because he weighs one ton but he can resist a budge with a million tons.

You read “Cable can’t budge Hulk” and you leapt to “Hulk evolved against being lifted”

Smurph, you agree that if you can't budge something, you can't lift it. What is your argument here?

Originally posted by carver9
The same screw you can lift easily, you can budge it as well. 😒😒😒

Screw's so tight, it won't budge = unliftable, according to you lmao.

I don't think carver is grasping the concept here.

Originally posted by carver9
Smurph, you agree that if you can't budge something, you can't lift it. What is your argument here?

Unlike most objects, Hulk can resist being pushed far more easily than he can resist being lifted. You’re using a rule of thumb (that it’s harder to lift something than to push it) that doesn’t apply to the Hulk.

I’m guessing that it takes less force to life The Rock than it does to push him if he’s resisting the push. Same idea, vastly different scale.

You’re leaping to “Hulk’s immune to being lifted” even though the easier explanation is “Cable’s a moron”.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Screw's so tight, it won't budge = unliftable, according to you lmao.

Wait, so if you screw something in a wall so tight that you can't budge it, are you saying that you can lift the screw? Help me understand what you're saying? Now if you're screwing something into a small piece of wood (you still should be able to budge it) then you are moving the wood and the nail. Cable couldn't move Hulk period. There's a difference.

@smurph (not letting me quote you)...

I think the purpose of the scene was to show that everything they've done was unsuccessful. Cable guns worked in the beginning but didn't work there. Rogue strength worked in the beginning (lol @Dark) but didn't work there. Cable telekinesis just didn't work and he described it as moving a mountain.

Yeah, agreed. The purpose of the scene was to show that Hulk’s an unstoppable/immovable force. But that’s a general idea - and you claimed something really specific:

Originally posted by carver9
Just noticed something. Cable tried to lift Hulk off the ground with his TK but couldn't budge him...

https://ibb.co/vDK24rz

You specifically claimed that Cable tried and failed to lift the Hulk. And all that we see is that Cable couldn’t budge him.

I don’t know how else to tell you that budging and lifting are different.