Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Started by Philosophía1,926 pages

Found this video, thought of Prep Man's threads:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CSSHiLwgGIb/

Originally posted by Philosophía
It's funny how Spiderman vs Firelord is the utmost example of PIS when there's far more egregious showings.

Batman choke slammed Grundy, that's the new PIS for me.





Spiderman at least struggled, and against an opponent that is inferior to essentially everybody there.

Spider-Man v Firelord started being used as an example of PIS over a decade ago. Comics, the attitude towards them and the accessibility to scans, has changed. I have no problem with a better example being nominated.

Just don't act like we came up with this last week or something.

....you wouldn't remember the comic for that would you ?

For...reasons.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Spider-Man v Firelord started being used as an example of PIS over a decade ago. Comics, the attitude towards them and the accessibility to scans, has changed. I have no problem with a better example being nominated.

Just don't act like we came up with this last week or something.

Oh they know. But it's funny how ingrained it is as the first thing to pop up. And a distant second is Deathstroke in Identity Crisis.

Given it's Spiderman and Firelord [i.e. the high end of street metas and the "meh" end of heralds], I don't even find it that shocking.

Originally posted by Damborgson
....you wouldn't remember the comic for that would you ?

For...reasons.

😂

Batman Confidential #53

I will share the profits with you 👆

Lmao, GRUNDY is the low point?

How about Bats Vs Wonder Woman, lmao.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Spider-Man v Firelord started being used as an example of PIS over a decade ago. Comics, the attitude towards them and the accessibility to scans, has changed. I have no problem with a better example being nominated.

Just don't act like we came up with this last week or something.

Just make sure we ALL get the memo.

Originally posted by carver9
We still don't ignore that it happened. Not usable in a forum fight but it is a way of finding a medium.

That's talking about Firelord/Spidey.

Not a post from 15 years ago. Or 10. But this week, lmao.

So you disagree that we can use it in a forum? Also, YOU are the one that keeps clinging to low showings. You feel some type of way because I said Mongul challenging Superman isn't PIS.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Oh they know. But it's funny how ingrained it is as the first thing to pop up. And a distant second is Deathstroke in Identity Crisis.

Given it's Spiderman and Firelord [i.e. the high end of street metas and the "meh" end of heralds], I don't even find it that shocking. 😂

Batman Confidential #53

Yeah. And of course, this forum used to be very heavily in the "heralds don't lose to streets" side of thing, to the point that there were no exceptions.

Nowadays, we have to deal with the reality that there are exceptions that prove the rule. Your Batmans, your Wolverines and so on. We just have to balance that plot armour with the realities of streets actually fighting heralds in battles.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Just make sure we ALL get the memo.

That's talking about Firelord/Spidey.

Not a post from 15 years ago. Or 10. But this week, lmao.

I can always edit the rules.

Originally posted by carver9
So you disagree that we can use it in a forum? Also, YOU are the one that keeps clinging to low showings. You feel some type of way because I said Mongul challenging Superman isn't PIS.

I say, personally, it's unusable. Because it is literal stupidity.

Where it then becomes murky is as Pr says, when Batman and Cap and Wolverine etc come in. Spiderman has his high showings, of course he does. But they still don't compare to the three I mention. I can scan dump Bats against every single one of the JLA, and compare his showings against the entire team, and that's just in the past ten years or so.

Hell, I even posted Cap outperforming the entire Avengers roster against Namor. And that's not even Cap's best.

As for Mongul/Superman, you misunderstood me. You were taking Superman's statement - that he was going all out - and saying it was true. When you and I both know his highest highs were nowhere near what he used against Mongul.

I use low showings like Cosmic Thor against that boulder, with you and Stoic PRECISELY because you guys use this 'average'rule. He has incredible highs (Black Winter) and incredible lows (the boulder), so as per your arguments, his actual level is an incredibly average middle.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

Lmao Masterson Thor doesn't even get a shout out.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I say, personally, it's unusable. Because it is literal stupidity.

Where it then becomes murky is as Pr says, when Batman and Cap and Wolverine etc come in. Spiderman has his high showings, of course he does. But they still don't compare to the three I mention. I can scan dump Bats against every single one of the JLA, and compare his showings against the entire team, and that's just in the past ten years or so.

Hell, I even posted Cap outperforming the entire Avengers roster against Namor. And that's not even Cap's best.

As for Mongul/Superman, you misunderstood me. You were taking Superman's statement - that he was going all out - and saying it was true. When you and I both know his highest highs were nowhere near what he used against Mongul.

I use low showings like Cosmic Thor against that boulder, with you and Stoic PRECISELY because you guys use this 'average'rule. He has incredible highs (Black Winter) and incredible lows (the boulder), so as per your arguments, his actual level is an incredibly average middle.

Not really. How often does Thor get hurt by mundane stuff?

When we talk averages, we don't have some magic measuring tape that goes up or down depending on total showings. We only mean how likely is Spidey to, say, be tagged with a bullet?

Sure, it happens. It may even happen enough times to count on two hands. But on average though, should Spidey be shot by non enhanced humans?

I wouldn't argue so. Spidey is defined by his "Spidey powers", which includes an early warning system. If the system simply fails to work, that's bad writing. If there are in story explanations, than it's extenuating circumstances.

You have no penis.

How often does Thor get hurt by mundane stuff?

All. The. Damn. Time.

But on average though, should Spidey be shot by non enhanced humans?

Depends on their training, talent and experience.

Frank never had any trouble gunning Parker down... while holding back.

If the system simply fails to work, that's bad writing.

SS was never written to be infallible. Even casual fans know this.

Only Muricans such as yourself are clueless about the stuff they have desperately tried to discuss on the same board for 20 years.

You really need to start cutting your wrists, cdtm. I'll be watching and fucking you in the ass.

Castle admitted he could never beat Matt straight up under Ennis, and Peter makes Matt his punching bag in 9 out of 10 fights.

Yeah, SS isn't infallible, but he's still vastly faster and more agile then top end streets, who themselves dance around bullets all the time.

Originally posted by cdtm
Not really. How often does Thor get hurt by mundane stuff?

When we talk averages, we don't have some magic measuring tape that goes up or down depending on total showings. We only mean how likely is Spidey to, say, be tagged with a bullet?

Sure, it happens. It may even happen enough times to count on two hands. But on average though, should Spidey be shot by non enhanced humans?

I wouldn't argue so. Spidey is defined by his "Spidey powers", which includes an early warning system. If the system simply fails to work, that's bad writing. If there are in story explanations, than it's extenuating circumstances.


Extenuating circumstances, including training?

I mean, we have Bullseye with zero powers (to do with his accuracy anyway).

Can he shoot Spidey?

'Skill' and 'Training' in comics can be a magic pill for anything the writers want. Example: Karate Kid.

Besides, the SS as Stilt said isn't infallible. Writers can define it differently, as it's fictional: some write it as a 'general' danger sense that doesn't actually tell Pete what the attack is, others turn it into precog where he can predict exactly where and when he will be hit.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
One question is finally answered - Dr Strange is a brown belt in his martial arts. Surfer is back to being Silver. And Strange has taken everyone back to the multiverse before the current one:

Also, Sise-Neg is back.

Curious to see if they do anything noteworthy with Sise-Neg.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Found this video, thought of Prep Man's threads:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CSSHiLwgGIb/

😂

reminds me of that time insane titan got beat up for hitting on the fat biker chick in a dive bar