Comic Book Questions & Discussion

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Originally posted by -Pr-
Me too, even if I hate how he little he explained the damned nano-suit.
The suit being introduced so early cheapened the appeal of young Superman for me.

Should've just kept him in the t-shirt, blue jeans, and hand-me-down work boots for a bit longer. A young, blue-collar Supes trying to figure out his powers and where he fit in the world was a lot more fun, imo.

Originally posted by Phil
The only one who came close to continuing Morrison's Superman was Greg Park I feel.

The rest were....all over the place. It's like some wanted to just write a 'generic' Superman, others wanted to write a retarded one, others the Superman they want, not the one that makes sense, etc. Pak's felt like Morrison's grown up.

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Pak's run on AC was really good... And no one was more surprised about that than me. ermm

Originally posted by Galan007
I legit miss young Superman from Morrison's AC run, though:

Wish we would've saw more of him in that era. 🙁


Morrison's Action Comics will be all time classic certainly

I however love the H'el arc the most from new52

such a cool villain, also kenneth rocafort should be the only artist to draw superman, the way he draws kryptonians is just so easy on the eyes

if nothing else new52 era certainly had some great art

Originally posted by Galan007
The suit being introduced so early cheapened the appeal of young Superman for me.

Should've just kept him in the t-shirt, blue jeans, and hand-me-down work boots for a bit longer. A young, blue-collar Supes trying to figure out his powers and where he fit in the world was a lot more fun, imo.

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Pak's run on AC was really good... And no one was more surprised about that than me. ermm

I think it was typical of Morrison's run on the book; as good as it was, it wasn't nearly long enough, so it felt a bit rushed to me. Even a dozen more issues would have been enough I think.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I think it was typical of Morrison's run on the book; as good as it was, it wasn't nearly long enough, so it felt a bit rushed to me. Even a dozen more issues would have been enough I think.
The problem (for me at least) was the origins were weirdly undercut by the fact the other books running concurrently were like 5-10 years later in the timeline

Originally posted by MrMind
Morrison's Action Comics will be all time classic certainly

I however love the H'el arc the most from new52

such a cool villain, also kenneth rocafort should be the only artist to draw superman, the way he draws kryptonians is just so easy on the eyes

if nothing else new52 era certainly had some great art

That's what I thought

Originally posted by HueyFreeman
The problem (for me at least) was the origins were weirdly undercut by the fact the other books running concurrently were like 5-10 years later in the timeline

Yeah; they really didn't differentiate enough between the books that were in the past, and the ones that were in the present. It was far too nebulous in certain titles.

Looking back on it now, the DCnU actually started off with some really good titles, even if many of them didn't last...

Action Comics
Justice League
Justice League Dark
Animal Man
Demon Knights
Constantine
Klarion
Swamp Thing
Captain Atom
I, Vampire
Aquaman
Phantom Stranger
Dial H
Vibe
Sword of Sorcery
Frankenstein, Agent of S.H.A.D.E

etc. etc.

Their roster was stacked back then.

Originally posted by Galan007
Looking back on it now, the DCnU actually started off with some really good titles, even if many of them didn't last...

Action Comics
Justice League
Justice League Dark
Animal Man
Demon Knights
Constantine
Klarion
Swamp Thing
Captain Atom
I, Vampire
Aquaman
Phantom Stranger
Dial H
Vibe
Sword of Sorcery
Frankenstein, Agent of S.H.A.D.E

etc. etc.

Their roster was stacked back then.

It really did. I was wholly opposed to even the idea of that kind of reboot, but the quality of several of the books won me over.

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As far as the amount and quality of consistently good titles is concerned, it's hard to top the DCnU in its early phases, imo.

In fact, 2011-2014(ish) may even be my all-around favorite 'era' in DC, if only because of the sheer amount of really good content they were cranking out back then.

Originally posted by Galan007
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As far as the amount and quality of consistently good titles is concerned, it's hard to top the DCnU in its early phases, imo.

In fact, 2011-2014(ish) may even be my all-around favorite 'era' in DC, if only because of the sheer amount of really good content they were cranking out back then.

It is hard to top, definitely.

The only one that comes close for me is the "just before, during and just after IC" one, but that's mostly because of what they were doing in the Superman books, especially the "Up, Up and Away" arc. If we include Sinestro Corps War in it, then that would definitely be mine.

Originally posted by Galan007
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As far as the amount and quality of consistently good titles is concerned, it's hard to top the DCnU in its early phases, imo.

In fact, 2011-2014(ish) may even be my all-around favorite 'era' in DC, if only because of the sheer amount of really good content they were cranking out back then.

True, I recall those days and I had real expectations for 7-8 titles at a time.

I concede that despite how long I’ve been around, I’m still not nearly as well-versed in a lot of stuff as most regular posters are, for, in addition to a 13-year gap from regularly posting here, I tend to just reread pre-New 52 material when it comes to DC. So when I ask this, I’m genuinely asking and not trolling, and hope I don’t get “warned” or “banned,” but, despite these increaingly consistent “multiversal feats,” doesn’t Superman still have his classic weaknesses to Kryptonite, Red Sun, magic, etc.? Aren’t there multiple characters who are still smarter and faster, if not “stronger or more powerful?”

I vaguely remember brief periods in which a mod would discourage the overuse of certain characters, but I can’t recall a point when a character is outright banned tentatively until their next story drops. Really not tryna cause a fuss I’m just genuinely curious

Warned for using banned apostrophes that mess the forum up.

Originally posted by Galan007
Looking back on it now, the DCnU actually started off with some really good titles, even if many of them didn't last...

Action Comics
Justice League
Justice League Dark
Animal Man
Demon Knights
Constantine
Klarion
Swamp Thing
Captain Atom
I, Vampire
Aquaman
Phantom Stranger
Dial H
Vibe
Sword of Sorcery
Frankenstein, Agent of S.H.A.D.E

etc. etc.

Their roster was stacked back then.

WW?

Originally posted by Quick Freeze
I concede that despite how long I’ve been around, I’m still not nearly as well-versed in a lot of stuff as most regular posters are, for, in addition to a 13-year gap from regularly posting here, I tend to just reread pre-New 52 material when it comes to DC. So when I ask this, I’m genuinely asking and not trolling, and hope I don’t get “warned” or “banned,” but, despite these increaingly consistent “multiversal feats,” doesn’t Superman still have his classic weaknesses to Kryptonite, Red Sun, magic, etc.? Aren’t there multiple characters who are still smarter and faster, if not “stronger or more powerful?”

I vaguely remember brief periods in which a mod would discourage the overuse of certain characters, but I can’t recall a point when a character is outright banned tentatively until their next story drops. Really not tryna cause a fuss I’m just genuinely curious

There's never any harm in asking questions if you're genuinely looking for an answer, so feel free.

Basically, a while back Mxy put things in to motion that caused the Post-Crisis Superman to merge with the New 52 one, and in doing so merged not just him, but also his history. If that wasn't bad enough, they also, in a recent comic called "Doomsday Clock" suggested that Superman isn't just the post-crisis Superman, but also the pre-crisis Superman that just had some timey wimey shit done to him. As an event, I would imagine most people are expecting it to have massive implications for DC continuity. As in, there's only ever really been one Superman. And that story is building up to a confrontation between Superman and Doctor Manhattan (yes, the one from Watchmen).

...and in Justice League this week, DC fully embraced the "Superman always wins lol" concept by having him punch out someone that had basically created their own multiverse and was going to replace the pre-existing one with it.

He still has his weaknesses. DC is just ramping up the instances of saying that in the end, they don't really matter.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Yeah; they really didn't differentiate enough between the books that were in the past, and the ones that were in the present. It was far too nebulous in certain titles.
What made it worse was the pick and choosing. Superman and WW had drastically differnet histories wheras batman and Green lantern were basically the same

Originally posted by HueyFreeman
What made it worse was the pick and choosing. Superman and WW had drastically differnet histories wheras batman and Green lantern were basically the same

Yeah. You were better off assuming they didn't really change at all. I mean, you can bet anything that Johns's entire Green Lantern run is still canon. Same with Morrison's Batman.

Originally posted by Quick Freeze
I concede that despite how long I’ve been around, I’m still not nearly as well-versed in a lot of stuff as most regular posters are, for, in addition to a 13-year gap from regularly posting here, I tend to just reread pre-New 52 material when it comes to DC. So when I ask this, I’m genuinely asking and not trolling, and hope I don’t get “warned” or “banned,” but, despite these increaingly consistent “multiversal feats,” doesn’t Superman still have his classic weaknesses to Kryptonite, Red Sun, magic, etc.? Aren’t there multiple characters who are still smarter and faster, if not “stronger or more powerful?”

I vaguely remember brief periods in which a mod would discourage the overuse of certain characters, but I can’t recall a point when a character is outright banned tentatively until their next story drops. Really not tryna cause a fuss I’m just genuinely curious

As an example:

That doesn't really answer the weakness question 😛

Exactly and the showing he just posted, Supes was heavingly amped.