Comic Book Questions & Discussion

I have to disagree. One the feat was not similar and this wasn’t lowballed from the dc guys. People were questioning the size/density of the planet and I saw no such thing about the sun. We could have easily said it was a big light ball because the heat from a real sun would have burned the entire planet and the gravity would have torn the planet apart. It was about basketball size about 1000 feet off the ground. None of us lowballed the feat this way. Nor did anyone question that surfer was in the blackhole or counter his escape. Did he escape? Or did he pass through a wormhole like you said. He was
Getting weaker and weaker until he was out of it. Once he got out he started to regain his strength, you can see how skeletal he was getting and then he was nearly full surfer size while fighting the sentries. No one questioned if he had regained his strength, we just accepted whatever was being pushed by the marvel guys. Because the feat was not that impressive. The sun feat is nothing for a guy that creates black holes.

Which durability is more impressive ? A guy in a blackhole that is losing strength and getting weaker to the point of almost dying or a kid that acts like he’s at the beach with black sand? Thats why surfer’s feat wasn’t that impressive. Heck Superman used blackholes as shortcuts to get from point a to point b. Would surfer try something like that knowing that getting stuck in one almost killed him?

annndddd...point proven. i never said anything about anyone lowballing the feat (though it was, several times), i simply said if ss were in dc, and performed a similar feat, i think the reaction would have been different to it. i guess you're right though--when one was weak he broke a planet, when the other was weak he survived for years in a black hole. /shrug

anyway, point is, the feat was impressive imo. and goob is right--it really isn't quantifiable in any real way, but it was clear he was very weak.

@bran--i dunno man, maybe tk, but his hands are literally glowing. hell, from the way the artist worked things in that book, the whole damn image could be purely metaphorical, i dunno.

i don't think the whole galaxy is in the black hole--it seems he found some way out to....somewhere that was really far away. maybe it will become more clear as things go along. /shrug

Originally posted by leonidas
annndddd...point proven. i never said anything about anyone lowballing the feat (though it was, several times), i simply said if ss were in dc, and performed a similar feat, i think the reaction would have been different to it. i guess you're right though--when one was weak he broke a planet, when the other was weak he survived for years in a black hole. /shrug

anyway, point is, the feat was impressive imo. and goob is right--it really isn't quantifiable in any real way, but it was clear he was very weak.

@bran--i dunno man, maybe tk, but his hands are literally glowing. hell, from the way the artist worked things in that book, the whole damn image could be purely metaphorical, i dunno.

i don't think the whole galaxy is in the black hole--it seems he found some way out to....somewhere that was really far away. maybe it will become more clear as things go along. /shrug

Originally posted by leonidas
annndddd...point proven. i never said anything about anyone lowballing the feat (though it was, several times), i simply said if ss were in dc, and performed a similar feat, i think the reaction would have been different to it. i guess you're right though--when one was weak he broke a planet, when the other was weak he survived for years in a black hole. /shrug

anyway, point is, the feat was impressive imo. and goob is right--it really isn't quantifiable in any real way, but it was clear he was very weak.

@bran--i dunno man, maybe tk, but his hands are literally glowing. hell, from the way the artist worked things in that book, the whole damn image could be purely metaphorical, i dunno.

i don't think the whole galaxy is in the black hole--it seems he found some way out to....somewhere that was really far away. maybe it will become more clear as things go along. /shrug

What point was that? the point "he was able to 'travel eons' near instantly" or "maybe it was supposed to have acted as a wormhole? not sure."

you said that if a dc guy would have done what surfer did we would have had a different reaction meaning lauding this feat as epic which i disagreed with because Jon was in a blackhole like it was nothing and no one lauded it as much as the recent superman feats.
Bran mentioned it even by saying that superman is a plot device. The planet shattering jump while already weakened and after already having failed multiple times proves it and then the multiverse destroying punch.

Sure surfer's feat of staying alive in the blackhole for years is a great feat but apologies for not giving it the credit you think it deserves. Surfer creating a miniature sun is impressive but he's created blackholes so that feat is not a big deal for a powerhouse like surfer. This is similar to superman flying into the sun or multiple suns. High heralds melt in the sun, but we've seen superman do this so many times that it's a non feat for him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Why wasn't it a normal black hole? Did something made it extra special? And why wouldn't we quantify it when Surfer fans have harped about Surfer fighting in a black hole ONCE as his default durability level for years?

If anything, the black hole which Jon Kent went through was stated to be special due to collapse of the Source Wall.

Surfer was almost torn apart by the black hole as explicitly stated in the script. Good luck with that.

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Originally posted by Diesldude
What point was that? the point "he was able to 'travel eons' near instantly" or "maybe it was supposed to have acted as a wormhole? not sure."

you said that if a dc guy would have done what surfer did we would have had a different reaction meaning lauding this feat as epic which i disagreed with because Jon was in a blackhole like it was nothing and no one lauded it as much as the recent superman feats.
Bran mentioned it even by saying that superman is a plot device. The planet shattering jump while already weakened and after already having failed multiple times proves it and then the multiverse destroying punch.

Sure surfer's feat of staying alive in the blackhole for years is a great feat but apologies for not giving it the credit you think it deserves. Surfer creating a miniature sun is impressive but he's created blackholes so that feat is not a big deal for a powerhouse like surfer. This is similar to superman flying into the sun or multiple suns. High heralds melt in the sun, but we've seen superman do this so many times that it's a non feat for him.

Superman is powered by a sun. Him flying into it, a power source and surviving, how is that a ft. Weve seen him react to temperatures that are not coming directly from the sun and he almost died.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman is powered by a sun. Him flying into it, a power source and surviving, how is that a ft. Weve seen him react to temperatures that are not coming directly from the sun and he almost died.

Never change Carver

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Never change Carver

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I wont.

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a turd will remain a turd

This is why the forum rounds on Carver and things sound....nasty.

so, this is rly interesting.
Apparently Kryptonian Cells are the greatest Organic Battery in the Galaxy according to Maxwell Lord:

Kind of gets put into perspective by Sun Dipping and Superman Prime, doesn't it?

With that in mind, if DC Scientists stopped being Comic Book scientists for two seconds and tried to use Kryptonian cells for energy storage or generation rather than cloned super weapons...

Remember that old comic about Superman turning a wheel until he died to provide free power to the world? I don't think Superman would need to turn that wheel for the world to have limitless power...
https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2011-07-13

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
This is why the forum rounds on Carver and things sound....nasty.

Ooorrrr, people could actually debate. Kinda like when I disagreed with EVERYTHING you said about the Surfer showing and I DEBATED against it. Adults with morals and common sense would understand this.

Excellent, master.

I see DarkSaint is on all fours, bending over for you again.

He never stood a chance...