Originally posted by abhilegendMarvel couldn't even approach Mxy -- and that was before DC went apeshit with cosmological aspects and beings, several of which operate beyond that. At this point, the likes of Beyonders/Celestials and whatnot are, imo, around the levels of Lords of Chaos/Order, perhaps. Same things applies to the "normal heroes" -- GLs, Wonder Woman etc have skyrocketed. In a way I'm glad we have Marvel chars getting a plethora of external power-ups - Odinforce/PC, Hulk-Rage-Control Spaceships and whanot, otherwise we'd start scratching the barrell of DC to put them up against.
We have DC villains creating infinite multiverse practically every event for last few years and marvel event villains are trying to destroy Earth for umpteenth time.
Originally posted by Philosophía
Marvel couldn't even approach Mxy -- and that was before DC went apeshit with cosmological aspects and beings, several of which operate beyond that. At this point, the likes of Beyonders/Celestials and whatnot are, imo, around the levels of Lords of Chaos/Order, perhaps. Same things applies to the "normal heroes" -- GLs, Wonder Woman etc have skyrocketed. In a way I'm glad we have Marvel chars getting a plethora of external power-ups - Odinforce/PC, Hulk-Rage-Control Spaceships and whanot, otherwise we'd start scratching the barrell of DC to put them up against.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Lords of Order and Chaos were always on that level. Its just that marvel fans always relied on power scaling of their characters (Galactus>Odin) and whatnot. Ever since DC reintroduced multiverse proper in new 52 and expanded their cosmic characters, they can't do even that.
So exactly like Dragon Ball fans.
Originally posted by Philosophía
Marvel couldn't even approach Mxy -- and that was before DC went apeshit with cosmological aspects and beings, several of which operate beyond that. At this point, the likes of Beyonders/Celestials and whatnot are, imo, around the levels of Lords of Chaos/Order, perhaps. Same things applies to the "normal heroes" -- GLs, Wonder Woman etc have skyrocketed. In a way I'm glad we have Marvel chars getting a plethora of external power-ups - Odinforce/PC, Hulk-Rage-Control Spaceships and whanot, otherwise we'd start scratching the barrell of DC to put them up against.
dc has def expanded their cosmology significantly, however it's in the expense of stories qualities.
and i agree the top lords of order/chaos (nabu and mordru) or hecate/upside down man can be compared to eternity, infinity etc