*sigh*
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You're not understanding my point.It depends on the number of showings they have, total.
Billy has quite a few showings. So his feats need to be taken into account, more than his fights.
Gladiator does not (relative to Billy). So his fights count for much more than his feats. He is the same like Orion, who has even fewer showings still.
Hulk has TONS of showings. So his fights and feats are all equal(ish) in weighting.
IOW: if a character has very few appearances (LT, In-Betweener, Orion, Galactus) then their fights are a better gauge of their power.
The more showings a character has, and the more they start interacting with other characters, the more their fights get diluted. Lobo is a good example, as are the Lanterns. You yourself acknowledge, in team books Lobo is less impressive. Lanterns are terrible against bricks. That's when their feats become more of a gauge, where writers don't have to dilute them. Batman and Cap are also good examples of this.
Five years on, and still counting.
And:
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That wasn't quite the same thing, at all.My point back then was that in team books, SOME characters are written to be way more powerful than they are in their solo titles.
I can easily name one - Batman. In his solo titles, he struggles in h2h with Joker, Two-Face, Bane etc. In his team books, he stands up to herald level attacks and tanks them.
I will name another, since you hate me using Batman. Daredevil in his solo titles struggles with human level attacks - then in team books, faces the Hulk. Fights Ultron.
Do you agree?
So if SOME characters, through scaling, are shown to be way more powerful in teams thanks to writers - then it follows that SOME characters have to be shown to be weaker than in their solo books.
[b]I am not sure, though, what this has to do with the topic in this thread. Apples to Oranges.
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Those are weak sunlamps because Cap and BP was standing right next to them...
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You're not getting the point.Those are weak sun lamps. BP and Cap are standing right next to them, no sunglasses or anything, casually chatting.
Tony knows UV light is effective against the Hulk.
Knows normal weaponry isn't.
And shows up in a prepped Hulkbuster.....with normal weaponry.
How is that not silly?
Was the heat vision Superman used against Doomsday weak that slung him since Lois was standing right next to them talking to Superman, Dark?
Originally posted by carver9
Those are weak sunlamps because Cap and BP was standing right next to them...Was the heat vision Superman used against Doomsday weak that slung him since Lois was standing right next to them talking to Superman, Dark?
Lmao.
Read my posts.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So PIS, gotcha 👆Doesn't have to be nuke level. Just needs to be something that can hurt him. We saw BP didn't exactly need nuke level energy to hurt Hulk.....
Put it this way. It's like showing up to a fight with a guy who's immune to oranges, but weak to apples.
So you build a new suit that only throws oranges, AND a giant catapult that only fires city sized apples.
Why not have some orange based weaponry on your suit? You had all that time to build that giant ass apple catapult, after all.....
I even said it was PIS. Are you ok?
I'm still waiting for Carver's comeback of this
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Lol, Superman one-shots Kalibak with ease and owns Orionhttps://ibb.co/FJMX09y
https://ibb.co/nrtfS56
https://ibb.co/D5kd8vZ
https://ibb.co/CvbGVt9Carver, hello?
Originally posted by carver9
I'll look at the rest of this.
Also, keep in mind. Superman still hasn't reached his upper limits during this
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Also, Superman's powers are supercharged and their limits haven't yet to be reached per Action Comics 1051's solidification
https://ibb.co/TM6v5vp
Originally posted by carver9
Show me, please.
Originally posted by carver9
Also, this is a good showing for Supes, beating Kalibak (he didn't defeat Orion though), especially considering Kalibak beating him in their last fight. He needs better fts than this for me to be impressed since Kalibak isn't that impressive.
Reminds of me of this
Originally posted by carver9
Nothing but high showings here (you can use average showings as well).Who wins?
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Kalibak is impressive because he beat Superman in the past, but simoultaneously Kalibak isn't impressive......
I said it's impressive Superman defeated Kalibak when in their last fight, Kalibak defeated Supes, BUT, overall, Kalibak himself, beating him isn't a high showing.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
.....I already posted the scan, in the post you replied...........
Lol. I assume he's just going to ignore it.
Originally posted by carver9
It depends. What fts does Kalibak have that makes you think beating him is a high showing?
Either Kalibak is that impressive enough to make him beating Superman be a legit feat, hence, a guy who could beat Superman in the past, and Superman now defeats him with utmost ease, shows Superman has a really good feat today
Or, Kalibak isn't that impressive, hence, him beating Superman in the past is PIS. Thus, can't be brought in a discussion
Originally posted by carver9
Also, this is a good showing for Supes, beating Kalibak (he didn't defeat Orion though), especially considering Kalibak beating him in their last fight. He needs better fts than this for me to be impressed since Kalibak isn't that impressive.
When did Kalibak beat Superman lol?