Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Lol, no, I'm asking you why you think Kalibak beating Superman isn't PIS, or Kalibak isn't that impressiveEither Kalibak is that impressive enough to make him beating Superman be a legit feat, hence, a guy who could beat Superman in the past, and Superman now defeats him with utmost ease, shows Superman has a really good feat today
Or, Kalibak isn't that impressive, hence, him beating Superman in the past is PIS. Thus, can't be brought in a discussion
I'm saying it's not a high showing because Kalibak sucks.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
*sigh*Five years on, and still counting.
And:
Whyre you posting things from different threads? You was OBVIOUSLY downplaying Hulk there by saying the characters struggled with something in that book which makes Hulk ft of owning them unimpressive. You being a hypocrite in another thread doesn't change this.
Originally posted by carver9
Whyre you posting things from different threads? You was OBVIOUSLY downplaying Hulk there by saying the characters struggled with something in that book which makes Hulk ft of owning them unimpressive. You being a hypocrite in another thread doesn't change this.
😂 come back when you have read and understood my posts.
Originally posted by carver9
That Thor and the crew was weak when they fought Hulk because of the fts in that story. Funny you're posting things outside of that thread to try and cover up how bias you are. I'm still looking for more posts.
Lol no.
I said they're weak because it was a team book. Same way the entirety of the Avengers couldn't budge Namor, yet Cap drew blood.
Same way Batman in JLA stories is a herald god, yet in his solo books struggles with goons.
If street tiers get written up, then high end characters get written down. Is Namor suddenly Cap tier? No, but when he meets Cap he isn't smushing him into paste. He doesn't suddenly get weaker.
Lobo is abstract tier in his own books....then when he meets others in teams, do they suddenly become > abstract? Or do you start being biased and hypocritical, dear Carv, and say he's not all that?
Green Lanterns are weak against bricks, according to you. So do we ignore all their feats and say hmmmm bricks just give off an anti Lantern aura (lol)?
Try and stay focussed here.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol no.I said they're weak because it was a team book. Same way the entirety of the Avengers couldn't budge Namor, yet Cap drew blood.
Same way Batman in JLA stories is a herald god, yet in his solo books struggles with goons.
If street tiers get written up, then high end characters get written down. Is Namor suddenly Cap tier? No, but when he meets Cap he isn't smushing him into paste. He doesn't suddenly get weaker.
Lobo is abstract tier in his own books....then when he meets others in teams, do they suddenly become > abstract? Or do you start being biased and hypocritical, dear Carv, and say he's not all that?
Green Lanterns are weak against bricks, according to you. So do we ignore all their feats and say hmmmm bricks just give off an anti Lantern aura (lol)?
Try and stay focussed here.
The team that DOS Doomsday fought, were they weaker since it involved all of then fighting as a team? Was Blue Beetle and Booster Gold weaker when they fought Doomsday or does this just apply to Hulk? Also, was the rest of the JLA weaker as well?
Originally posted by carver9
The team that DOS Doomsday fought, were they weaker since it involved all of then fighting as a team? Was Blue Beetle and Booster Gold weaker when they fought Doomsday or does this just apply to Hulk? Also, was the rest of the JLA weaker as well?
Oh man.
Do you even read what you post, lol. Are you functionally retarded?
I literally said that street tier (i.e. weaker) characters are written UP.
You then go full smooth brain, and ask if BLUE BEETLE, HUMAN LEVEL BLUE BEETLE, WAS WRITTEN DOWN.
Stop just reacting to my posts, lol, and actually read them and try to understand. You're literally proving the point I'm making - that weaker characters are written UP, when they should be a pink smear.
Like Blue Beetle and Booster, lmao.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oh man.Do you even read what you post, lol. Are you functionally retarded?
I literally said that street tier (i.e. weaker) characters are written UP.
You then go full smooth brain, and ask if BLUE BEETLE, HUMAN LEVEL BLUE BEETLE, WAS WRITTEN DOWN.
Stop just reacting to my posts, lol, and actually read them and try to understand. You're literally proving the point I'm making - that weaker characters are written UP, when they should be a pink smear.
Like Blue Beetle and Booster, lmao.
Aaaaahhhhh, gotcha. My bad. Street characters/metas were written up (surviving Doomsday punch) whereas Superman and the other Heralds were written down (gas station explosion, pillars knock out, etc...). So the Heralds that Doomsday fought in that story wasn't operating at full capacity whereas the low tier characters had a boost in power and all of this is due to them being in a team environment?
Originally posted by carver9
Aaaaahhhhh, gotcha. My bad. Street characters/metas were written up (surviving Doomsday punch) whereas Superman and the other Heralds were written down (gas station explosion, pillars knock out, etc...). So the Heralds that Doomsday fought in that story wasn't operating at full capacity whereas the low tier characters had a boost in power and all of this is due to them being in a team environment?
Exactly. But don't think you're trapping me, because I already argued this.
Like I said, it's PIS. Beetle surviving is the same reason Cap survives, or Batman survives, or Penguin has no scratches on him, or Daredevil survives Ultron.
Same reason Monica Rappacini survives an all out, non holding back, amped Hulk fighting three other amped insane Hulks without even a tan.
Same reason Batman survives a bloodlusted, amped WW who is explicitly trying to kill him, whilst he's wounded and in street clothes.
Doesn't take away from their achievements. WBH is still powerful. Doomsday is still powerful.
Because WBH nearly, when holding back, cracked the Eastern Seaboard with a step.
Because Doomsday physically beat DC's top herald to death.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Exactly. But don't think you're trapping me, because I already argued this.Like I said, it's PIS. Beetle surviving is the same reason Cap survives, or Batman survives, or Penguin has no scratches on him, or Daredevil survives Ultron.
Same reason Monica Rappacini survives an all out, non holding back, amped Hulk fighting three other amped insane Hulks without even a tan.
Same reason Batman survives a bloodlusted, amped WW who is explicitly trying to kill him, whilst he's wounded and in street clothes.
Doesn't take away from their achievements. WBH is still powerful. Doomsday is still powerful.
Because WBH nearly, when holding back, cracked the Eastern Seaboard with a step.
Because Doomsday physically beat DC's top herald to death.
Thor and the crew Hulk stomped isn't weak but you mentioned them failing to stop stuff primarily in that book. They couldn't stop a meteor, right? Superman couldn't witbstand rocks falling on him. So why is Thor and the crew limited to just meteor strength as a team but Superman isn't limited to gas station., rock passing out durability?
Originally posted by carver9
Thor and the crew Hulk stomped isn't weak but you mentioned them failing to stop stuff primarily in that book. They couldn't stop a meteor, right? Superman couldn't witbstand rocks falling on him. So why is Thor and the crew limited to just meteor strength as a team but Superman isn't limited to gas station., rock passing out durability?
So you DON'T think Thor and the crew failed to stop the meteor?
I don't think you understand what you're arguing now, lol. Please explain.
I said in that Avengers book, a team book, the high tier characters were written down. Thor (with help etc) couldn't stop that meteor.
This is OBVIOUSLY a low showing for Thor. Hence, written down.
Why is this so hard to understand?? I know you are trying not to let the insults get to you, but I am genuinely curious as to how/why you are so stupid.
Now you'll say 'oh, then why don't we say DoS was a low showing for Superman??'
Is that what you wanted to say?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So you DON'T think Thor and the crew failed to stop the meteor?I don't think you understand what you're arguing now, lol. Please explain.
I said in that Avengers book, a team book, the high tier characters were written down. Thor (with help etc) couldn't stop that meteor.
This is OBVIOUSLY a low showing for Thor. Hence, written down.
Why is this so hard to understand?? I know you are trying not to let the insults get to you, but I am genuinely curious as to how/why you are so stupid.
Now you'll say 'oh, then why don't we say DoS was a low showing for Superman??'
Is that what you wanted to say?
You didn't say a thing about low showings when you mentioned the meteor showing. You clearly mentioned that to downplay Hulk. You're clearly changing stance here. The meteor showing didn't even happen in the same book Hulk defeated the Avengers. Heck, pages after that, they were moving earth weight but you still mentioned the meteor. I don't think anything is a low showing in that book since we got a clear indication on how powerful they were. YOU mentioned the meteor showing books back to try and downplay Hulk. So I don't even know why you're talking about lowshowings when I never said that about the Hulk fight and YOU didn't mention it when you brought up how weak you THINK the Avengers were.
Originally posted by carver9
You didn't say a thing about low showings when you mentioned the meteor showing. You clearly mentioned that to downplay Hulk. You're clearly changing stance here. The meteor showing didn't even happen in the same book Hulk defeated the Avengers. Heck, pages after that, they were moving earth weight but you still mentioned the meteor. I don't think anything is a low showing in that book since we got a clear indication on how powerful they were. YOU mentioned the meteor showing books back to try and downplay Hulk. So I don't even know why you're talking about lowshowings when I never said that about the Hulk fight and YOU didn't mention it when you brought up how weak you THINK the Avengers were.
....
I literally said that they were written down in a team book.
How does that NOT mean low showing, lmao.
Seriously, stop posting until you actually read and understand my posts, and try previewing your posts and read them before you post.