Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Started by carver91,926 pages

If it's gravity based, wouldn't this also include his strength as well?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Your first comic with the Kingpin, yes?

Spoiler:
Doombot, but still.

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YouTube video

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Kingpin > Everyone, makes perfect sense.

You know, he could probably legitimately defeat Yujiro Hanma.

Why not?

Originally posted by Astner
Yeah. Although, admittedly, the "explanation" was a bit jarring because it didn't really explain anything other than Superman's powers varying with- and somehow being connected to gravity. It's a bit of a weird take, but I'm guessing it will be used to explain his flight, superluminal travel, and maybe even time travel (he was lost in space for years, but return before Lois could even notice). Also, we've already gotten an explanation for why his ability to hold his breath varies from story to story: gravity and sunlight.
Given this particular take seems to limit him to sublight speed, reverse time dilation will definitely have some part to play in it. Again, I'm sure it's a necessary limitation for plot's sake. It's just so... underscored??? And it still doesn't explain why he'd pass out from taking a deep breath of CO2 though.
Originally posted by carver9
If it's gravity based, wouldn't this also include his strength as well?
Seems like it.

Originally posted by Astner
From what I gather it was a special kind of black hole whose core hadn't collapsed due to the technology used to contain it. But before that technology broke down and the artificial black hole collapsed to a proper black hole Superman managed to get the ship to enter hyperspace just before the collapse. It's not really clear whether he fell into the black hole and it functioned as a wormhole, or whether he was just hurled into space as he got out of hyperspace. Either way, we never see him entering the event horizon.

- Superman: Lost #2


It's mentioned in the previous issue it's former and the ship was sucking into the singularity
https://ibb.co/XJBrd02
https://ibb.co/XXwHBmt
https://ibb.co/RbHB0m6
https://ibb.co/8j9hkSw

Just realized that Superman: Lost #2 also proves that Superman needs to breath...

https://ibb.co/vv0mg01
https://ibb.co/NyKVW2Q

He's needed to breath since after Silver Age, probably,

Recall a run in the late 80s or early 90s (I think), when they gave Superman the mullet, he was unconscious in space due to running out oxygen and not being able to find a suitable world.

Edit: It was on Warworld with Mongul, coming back to me

People here said he doesn't need to breath.

^^ so we ignore hundreds of examples of him flying across the universe faster than light without a mask because of this one series?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
It's mentioned in the previous issue it's former and the ship was sucking into the singularity
https://ibb.co/XJBrd02
https://ibb.co/XXwHBmt
https://ibb.co/RbHB0m6
https://ibb.co/8j9hkSw

Yes. We see the ship being torn apart from the inside in #2 as well, but there's no direct evidence of Superman falling into the black hole.

Originally posted by Diesldude
^^ so we ignore hundreds of examples of him flying across the universe faster than light without a mask because of this one series?

Carver is correct. Superman surviving in outer space for extensive periods of time doesn't prove that he could do so indefinitely--that's a no-limits fallacy (formally: a hasty generalization)--and as far as I know there are no accounts suggesting that he could hold his breath indefinitely.

Originally posted by Astner
Yes. We see the ship being torn apart from the inside in #2 as well, but there's no direct evidence of Superman falling into the black hole.

So...if Superman was in the ship and the ship was being pulled into the black hole(as stated in #1), how could he not fall into the black hole?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So...if Superman was in the ship and the ship was being pulled into the black hole(as stated in #1), how could he not fall into the black hole?

I'm not sure what you're paraphrasing. Could you post the quote?

Originally posted by Astner
Because the wording implies that it was in the process of being pulled in, not that it had been pulled in.

Yeah, but the words also implied that the hyperspace the issue 2 referred to is the black hole functioned as the wormhole
As you can see, it stated here
1)it stated the stellar drive creates wormhole to achieve FTL
2)the ship was shrinking due to it was being pulled into the singularity
https://ibb.co/XJBrd02
And later we see how the ship was gone(I.E continously shrinking but Superman was acting as a circuit to prevent it from expanding)
https://ibb.co/8j9hkSw

Then, in the next issue, it attributes Superman was in there due to the black hole
https://ibb.co/yy5Bgb2
Plus, the fact Superman needed to untying Diana's lasso in fear of pulling others in
https://ibb.co/Nr7Bp8s
So, yeah, I think it should be the former interpretation in your original post

Edit:

Originally posted by Astner
I'm not sure what you're paraphrasing. Could you post the quote?

Originally posted by Astner
It's not really clear whether he fell into the black hole and it functioned as a wormhole

https://ibb.co/sgPLC7q

^ Clearly Superman survived the singularity. But then... so did the ship since he and the ship both exited intact. So either you characterize it as Superman's physiology contributing to the hyperdrive travel or him withstanding a singularity as feat of extreme durability... along with a ship that matches Superman's durability.

Loving Scalped, even as I hate little things about it. One of those things is about The Catcher.

He's established as a drunk and a bum and probably delusional. And they info dump he's a college graduate and Rhodes Scholar.

No real reason for that reveal imo. I understand why they did it.

So you don't write him off as just a drunken idiot. No sire, he's an f'n rhodes scholar! He's a proven fart smella! Smart fella. Clearly he would have been a world's treasure but for the tragedy of the bottle.

This is how you give credibility to a lunatic. I absolutely despise the convention that educational achievement is used as a proof of "worth". It's lazy writing, and frankly it reinforces the real life notion that anyone who hasn't achieved in higher education is not worth listening to.

Yes! Education is important, but there is a certain "snobbery" to writing off anyone without those feathers in their cap.

Originally posted by Diesldude
^^ so we ignore hundreds of examples of him flying across the universe faster than light without a mask because of this one series?

Silver Age, there's instances where he didn't need oxygen to survive/function. He also had some of his more outlandish and fantastic feats during this time.

After the SA, he generally needs to breath, but can hold his breath for extended lengths of time, which also varies from writer to writer on how long.

Originally posted by Robtard
Silver Age, there's instances where he didn't need oxygen to survive/function. He also had some of his more outlandish and fantastic feats during this time.

After the SA, he generally needs to breath, but can hold his breath for extended lengths of time, which also varies from writer to writer on how long.


Pretty sure even after Silver Age, the need for breathing also varies from writer to writer

superman 251, Broze Age
https://ibb.co/st8DvK6

Post-crisis
https://ibb.co/WGzkmm2

New 52
https://ibb.co/gTS6vNv

And if we don't want too strictly speaking, then back in the Golden Age. Superboy(Earth-1 Kal-El) consistently was stated to be can hold his breathe indefinitely
https://ibb.co/qybmvNC
https://ibb.co/k5C9kFG

And incapable of being suffocated, broze age
https://ibb.co/y8zPZxw

Originally posted by carver9
Just realized that Superman: Lost #2 also proves that Superman needs to breath...

https://ibb.co/vv0mg01
https://ibb.co/NyKVW2Q

2023 while amplified.

You know what Sins of Sinister reminds me of? A KMC amalgam battlezone. On crack.

So good.

Originally posted by carver9
2023 while amplified.
Lamo when he was fighting lex he was sent via wormhole to gazillion light years away and came back in the same panel. This writer stated that Superman may have trouble flying faster than light. So is he really amped ? I don’t even think this is mainstream.