Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Started by Old Man Whirly!1,926 pages

Originally posted by Astner
I'm not sure why anyone would want to use established character for any other reason than to lure in an audience with brand recognition. Because the characters that work best for any given story are the characters that have been designed for that story.
you can design a version of a character for a story. Jojo Rabbit Love and Thunder Thor would not have worked in Endgame.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
you can design a version of a character for a story. Jojo Rabbit Love and Thunder Thor would not have worked in Endgame.

Sure, but if you insist on using a particular in your story there are certain characteristics of the character that you ought to adhere to. It's always better to design a character for a story rather than trying to write a story around a character.

By nature comic characters usually outlive their stories though, and you get different writers who put their own spin on it. The Immortal Iron Fist literally saw Misty Knight change overnight from an action bytch ala Dirty Harry, complete with snarky one liners, to the girlfriend slash mama stereotype all tender hearted in the next arc under new writers.

Originally posted by cdtm
By nature comic characters usually outlive their stories though, and you get different writers who put their own spin on it. The Immortal Iron Fist literally saw Misty Knight change overnight from an action bytch ala Dirty Harry, complete with snarky one liners, to the girlfriend slash mama stereotype all tender hearted in the next arc under new writers.
not untrue, cannonball suddenly stops having big ears is a good example.

I was worried that, for a character introduced near 50 years ago with a very well-defined origin, that any revisitation/recontextualization of said origin would be irritating at best or outright offensive at worst.

But the way Jason Aaron is approaching Frank Castle in his The King of Killers storyline is fascinating. You'd think his "Fist of the Hand" powerups were supposed to be the main draw of this series. Which would've been thoroughly ironic given the infamy following the last time Punisher was given supernatural amps.

But that powerup angle is simultaneously irrelevant yet crucial to the real story Jason Aaron wanted to tell. I think The King of Killers storyline rivals the best of any Punisher runs.

Hulk called one of the most powerful beings in existence...

https://ibb.co/R0prWkS

Also, Titan IS Hulk. He's an unleashed Hulk. Strange feels that with Titan in control, he can destroy everything.

Calm your chocolate mantits down, Carv.

Deadpool Danny Rand is best Danny Rand.

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Iron_Fists_(Earth-16356)?file=Iron_Fists_%28Earth-16356%29_from_Deadpool_Vol_6_19_001.jpg

Wish he had more then a cameo.

Lot of lost opportunity for future Iron Fist stories tbh. Imagine him appearing in Old Man Logan, maybe he can be a wandering hermit in those woods Logan takes the kids through, maybe he escorts them while Logan holds off the armies.

Considering the healing properties of chi, my head canon says Danny can look 18 years old if he chose to. He'd just need to spend a lot of time meditating and channeling that chi. And in longer fights as he used up his reserves I imagine he'd gradually age. Just like the gods aged when they lost the fruits of immortality in the Chaos King thing.

You can make an excuse that his youthful looks are pure vanity, and actually wastes his chi pool somewhat, which would be a neat character flaw that allies can throw in his face.

Juggernaut oneshotting Galactus lol

Marvel announced that Danny Rand will retire as Iron Fist and pass the mantle to a successor.

Dammit.

How can you not know what to do with him? It's not hard, read some manga and Street Fighter and go from there.

Shang Chi and Iron Fist on the same team had so much potential yet everyone blew it. Only Brian Michael Bendis actually seemed to get it, of all people, his Elektra and Danny fight should have been the go-to well before him.

He fights. Make awesome fights.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
it's not that it's just, a charadhter is only as that writer or director sees them. Let's use Sherlock Holmes for example, Sherlock with Cumberbatch and Sherlock Holmes by Guy Ritchie and the one with the guy from Trainspotting all came out around the same time. They are all Sherlock Holmes, but so very different ad was the writers and Directors intent. Comics are the same. Usually comics, films etc are head canon for the creator at that point, look at the recent Jojo Rabbit Thor, that's not the Thor from Richard Branner (sp) and the first film... but it is...

I'm not going to argue about whether that's how it should be, as that's a different conversation, but when it comes to comics, that's simply not how it is. The big two are obsessed with continuity. Massive retcons, callbacks, and DC fumbling every big event since Final Crisis in an attempt to iron things out proves that.

Bad/different writing doesn't make things not canon, as much as we wish it might in certain circumstances.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I'm not going to argue about whether that's how it should be, as that's a different conversation, but when it comes to comics, that's simply not how it is. The big two are obsessed with continuity. Massive retcons, callbacks, and DC fumbling every big event since Final Crisis in an attempt to iron things out proves that.

Bad/different writing doesn't make things not canon, as much as we wish it might in certain circumstances.

Even vertigo with like that with a brand names. I loved vertical Green Arrow as much as the next person but there was some serious continuity issues there.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I'm not going to argue about whether that's how it should be, as that's a different conversation, but when it comes to comics, that's simply not how it is. The big two are obsessed with continuity. Massive retcons, callbacks, and DC fumbling every big event since Final Crisis in an attempt to iron things out proves that.

Bad/different writing doesn't make things not canon, as much as we wish it might in certain circumstances.

I think they pretend to be obsessed by continuity, but the regular monthly editorial decisions really indicate otherwise. That said neither Marvel or DC follow Shooter's rules anymore... it's painfully clear.

Originally posted by Smurph
First and only time Todd has said it would be good to have more race in his comics.

😂

So.....Superman looks like he can overcome kryptonite and shows other exotic abilities
https://ibb.co/hKTSJcD
https://ibb.co/g9jnCfY
https://ibb.co/K0mw0gr
https://ibb.co/1MgxmKR
https://ibb.co/vjM3XkK
https://ibb.co/xJZCVzc
https://ibb.co/WtQj9BN
https://ibb.co/L5YCJwm

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So.....Superman looks like he can overcome kryptonite and shows other exotic abilities
https://ibb.co/hKTSJcD
https://ibb.co/g9jnCfY
https://ibb.co/K0mw0gr
https://ibb.co/1MgxmKR
https://ibb.co/vjM3XkK
https://ibb.co/xJZCVzc
https://ibb.co/WtQj9BN
https://ibb.co/L5YCJwm

Looks like the Kryptonite metallo is using isn't your normal k-nite which could be the reason Superman showed different abilities and it didn't hurt him. Context.

He even mentions that it has an effect on him too, it helps him over come kryptonite and some. The some is giving him new abilities as soon as he touched it.

Or unless Superman was talking about the white sun...which was nourished by the blood of a god of the first world/an old god
https://ibb.co/cQMZkNV

Which, sounds very close to what Superman was saying here
https://ibb.co/1MgxmKR