Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Originally posted by carver9
TOAA pictured him as a challenge to his authority and supremacy.

I can challenge DC/Marvel's authority and supremacy by creating accounts and posting pirated scans on their official websites. Doesn't mean they need to put much efforts to delete my acounts/scans

Originally posted by carver9
TOAA pictured him as a challenge to his authority and supremacy.

Just to clarify, is the FotF you're talking about the same one from Hellblazer? He's now become a villain in mainstream DC continuity?

I'm not sure how to feel about that.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Just to clarify, is the FotF you're talking about the same one from Hellblazer? He's now become a villain in mainstream DC continuity?

I'm not sure how to feel about that.

And the DC Fandom(fan-based information, not official, but still) did note he as a reimagined version of the original one from Hellblazer
https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Action_Comics_Presents:_Doomsday_Special_Vol_1_1

First of the Fallen was adapted by Garth Ennis and Will Simpson, first appearing in Hellblazer #42. However, in the Prime Earth continuity First of the Fallen first appeared as part of the New 52 DC Universe in Justice League Dark (Volume 2) #1 by James Tynion IV and Álvaro Martínez Bueno.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Should be. At least, that is what he called himself
https://ibb.co/9vMz5j1

And the DC Fandom(fan-based information, not official, but still) did note he as a reimagined version of the original one from Hellblazer
https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Action_Comics_Presents:_Doomsday_Special_Vol_1_1

https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/First_of_the_Fallen_(Prime_Earth)

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Just to clarify, is the FotF you're talking about the same one from Hellblazer? He's now become a villain in mainstream DC continuity?

I'm not sure how to feel about that.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Aside from it again directly states Doomsday's regen extends to just need memory to reconstruct itself.
Doomsday also would have resurrected itself just by MMH's psychic link with him in this issue

But then during the tacked-on epilogue, it states that Raphael Arce brought Doomsday into Hell during Lazarus Planet which was after Dark Crisis...

Bruh... you can't even blame this on different writers/editors. It was the same writer/editor??? Whatever... anyway, I'll choose to believe that Raphael Arce's powers via Lazarus rains brought Doomsday into Hell. Sure... character statements made by demons in both instances but somehow both were confirmed by editor notes. Last in time = canon, as far as I'm concerned.

D1s some sloppy editorializing tho.

I'm glad Superman admitted that during his fight, at the end, his punches were like dead weights, he was tired, not getting stronger, had nothing on the tank during the last stand with Doomsday, before dying. Thanks Supes for confirming this...

https://ibb.co/wCSTnFt

Also want to point out that Doomsday was amped.

https://ibb.co/SKLTcqN

Originally posted by carver9
I'm glad Superman admitted that during his fight, at the end, his punches were like dead weights, he was tired, not getting stronger, had nothing on the tank during the last stand with Doomsday, before dying. Thanks Supes for confirming this...

https://ibb.co/wCSTnFt

Originally posted by carver9
I'm glad Superman admitted that during his fight, at the end, his punches were like dead weights, he was tired, not getting stronger, had nothing on the tank during the last stand with Doomsday, before dying. Thanks Supes for confirming this...

https://ibb.co/wCSTnFt

Originally posted by carver9
Also want to point out that Doomsday was amped.

https://ibb.co/SKLTcqN

Are you crying?

Originally posted by ODG
MMH may have a psychic link to Doomsday now due to Lazarus Planet but the comic actually states that Doomsday went to hell after he was killed during the climax of Dark Crisis.

Doomsday was destroyed during Dark Crisis, and later tried to reconstruct itself via Metropolis's own memory, however, its attempt was stopped by Raphael Arce and MMH
https://ibb.co/F0GJswq

I.E
1)It was destroyed during Dark Crisis(its body was destroyed)
2)Later it tried to regrow itself via memory but before Doomsday could successfully resurrect it was stopped by Raphael Arce and MMH(They sent it to hell, and since it never successfully resurrected so of course it couldn't be said it was destroyed)
3)Doomsday once again tried to resurrect himself via MMH's psychic link, but again, it was stopped before it could successfully resurrect itself

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
I don't see the contradication here?

Doomsday was destroyed during Dark Crisis, and later tried to reconstruct itself via Metropolis's own memory, however, its attempt was stopped by Raphael Arce and MMH
https://ibb.co/F0GJswq

I.E
1)It was destroyed during Dark Crisis(its body was destroyed)
2)Later it tried to regrow itself via memory but before Doomsday could successfully resurrect it was stopped by Raphael Arce and MMH(They sent it to hell, and since it never successfully resurrected so of course it couldn't be said it was destroyed)
3)Doomsday once again tried to resurrect himself via MMH's psychic link, but again, it was stopped before it could successfully resurrect itself

Your take makes sense, but (to ODG's point about editing), it would be clearer if the comic said "after he was last destroyed"

Originally posted by Smurph
It's because the comic says that Hell is where Doomsday was sent when he was last destroyed.

Your take makes sense, but (to ODG's point about editing), it would be clearer if the comic said "after he was last destroyed"

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Apparently, the editor wasn't overcome by a librarian

Anyways, you asked where the contradiction was between the two editor notes. There it is.

Originally posted by Smurph
You mean the editor wasn't overcome by the need to edit? It's... sort of their whole job.

Anyways, you asked where the contradiction was between the two editor notes. There it is.

from this thread
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=683103&pagenumber=4

As for the contradiction, I don't think it's a contradiction per se, as it can be explained(which you agreed). I think it's more like ambiguous words/misdirecting words choice

oh lol

yes

Hey, Adventure Time with Fiona and Cake exists! 🥰

And it's good. Follows Ice King in Ooo post restored sanity, with Fiona and Cake being real in another universe, but a 20 something girl in a New York City style setting with her cat Cake trying to get by.

All the humans you meet in human world are representative of classic characters, it's fun trying to figure out who is whom.

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂

Are you crying?

Why would I be crying? For YEARS i've been saying Superman didn't amp up his strength in DOS, that he was getting weaker. YOU ALL painted this picture that his supposedly dynamic strength made him stronger while getting beat to death by Doomsday and even admitting in DOS that his legs were feeling like jelly.

Also, Doomsday is amped fighting Martian Manhunter and Supergirl due to souls feeding him. Why would I be mad at this since it's not a display of Doomsday true power.