Comic Book Questions & Discussion

Current Superman and Lois are not part of America's greatest generation because of vague, unfulfilled slogans like "one timeline where everything matters".

You act like current Superman's life on Earth involves a single conglomerated timeline that would necessarily involve his career emerging in 1940s America and dealing with World War II.

That notion is farcical. You'd have to ignore the very follow-up to Death Metal itself which is Infinite Frontier #0. In it, the Quintessence reveal to ascended Wonder Woman that the DC multiverse was restored. Not "one timeline" but "countless universes" worth of timelines:

Once you're done ignoring the specific follow-up to Death Metal, you'd then have to argue against 40 years of published DC comics since Crisis on Infinite Earths where it is established that current Superman did not emerge in the 1940s.

And don't forget to resolve you arguing with yourself since you ironically dispelled that notion when you posted Superman fighting during World War II only because he was sent back to that time via time-travel!

What ought to be pointed out is that I'm not the one trying to ignore the consequences of Death Metal, much less 80 years of DC comics publication. I embrace it, together with all its famous retcons. You're the one trying to ignore it in favor of a throwaway slogans that are repudiated by the actual comics themselves.

Oh, deja vu?

Originally posted by ODG
So declare your answer:

[b]"qwertyuiop1998 thinks current Superman started his career in the 1940s"

Yes or no?

What are you so afraid of? [/B]

Odg: *using an argument that would get countered by floating time explanation*

Me: *point out the floating time explanation*

Odg: "then how about this!"

Me: *point out a proof that directly countered his argument*

Odg: *reverted back to using the argument that would get countered by floating time explanation

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
TBH, I actually laughed

Let's pretend that you weren't utterly deconstructed like a a little b1tch.

Originally posted by ODG

That notion is farcical. You'd have to ignore the very follow-up to Death Metal itself which is Infinite Frontier #0. In it, the Quintessence reveal to ascended Wonder Woman that the DC multiverse was restored. Not "one timeline" but "countless universes" worth of timelines:

Originally posted by Galan007
Was this posted?

^ I mean, I'm posting a scan from an actual comic that followed Death Metal and you're relying on an... ad? What sort of purchase do you think you've bought here?

Originally posted by ODG
Quoted for truth. Fools typically laugh when cornered.

Let's pretend that you weren't utterly deconstructed like a a little b1tch.

Edit:
you did it again in here....it really seems you've nothing to say here but throwing off tantum

If you want to keep up this folly, then... "qwertyuiop1998 thinks current Superman started his career in the 1940s"

Yes or no?

Originally posted by ODG
If you want to keep up this folly, then... [b]"qwertyuiop1998 thinks current Superman started his career in the 1940s"

Yes or no? [/B]

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Do you think floating timeline doesn't exist in comics, yes or no? 🙂
We can continue using questions answer questions game.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
But your argument for the pre-crisis characters aren't canon, is based on an argument that would get countered by floating time

And once you don't have it, you only just throwing tantrum at this point.

"qwertyuiop1998 thinks current Superman started his career in the 1940s"

Yes or no?

Originally posted by ODG
[b]"qwertyuiop1998 thinks current Superman started his career in the 1940s"

Yes or no? [/B]

^ Sure. But it does punctuate how afraid you are of the simple question that dismantles your own argument.

"qwertyuiop1998 thinks current Superman started his career in the 1940s"

Yes or no?

And if it's a yes (I think qwerty said yes like......a couple pages back)?

Originally posted by ODG
^ Sure. But it does punctuate how afraid you are of the simple question that dismantles your own argument.

[b]"qwertyuiop1998 thinks current Superman started his career in the 1940s"

Yes or no? [/B]

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Why it sounds like you're afraid of acknowledging the comic book time exists in comics?
Maybe because once you acknowledged it, your whole argument about 1940s period would fall apart?

I mean, at this point, it basically is:

Odg:" 1940s!!!"

Me:"floating time"

Odg:" COIE !!!"

Me: "it's undone by Death Metal" *point out the proof*

Odg: "it doesn't mean it's one timeline!"

Me:*point out the scan that explicitly says it's one timeline*

Odg:" 1940s!!!"

^ This is actually an accurate summary. I appreciate that you've been cornered into accepting the absurdity you've forced upon yourself. But the question remains... so, once again:

"qwertyuiop1998 thinks current Superman started his career in the 1940s"

Yes or no?

Originally posted by ODG
^ This is actually an accurate summary.

"qwertyuiop1998 thinks current Superman started his career in the 1940s"

Yes or no?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And if it's a yes (I think qwerty said yes like......a couple pages back)?

Crisis on Infinite Earths and the subsequent stories like Infinite Crisis actually made it very clear: Superman-2 and Hippolyta were retconned as being the Superman and Wonder Woman that were active during WW2.

So, no, current Superman did not begin his career during the 1940s. Only a phucking imbecile would say act like Death Metal somehow unretconned what 40 years worth of DC comics established.

It's oddly insulting to point out obvious DC history to snivelling schmucks who act like they're the arbiters of DC history. Especially those who cannot even answer a basic yes or no question that utterly dismantles their position.

It's called prevarication. And three pages of it is about just enough.

But let's see how much more this little b1tch avoids the simple question posed to him.

Originally posted by ODG
[b]"qwertyuiop1998 thinks current Superman started his career in the 1940s"

Yes or no?

Crisis on Infinite Earths and the subsequent stories like Infinite Crisis actually made it very clear: Superman-2 and Hippolyta were retconned as being the Superman and Wonder Woman that were active during WW2.

So, no, current Superman did not begin his career during the 1940s. Only a phucking imbecile would say act like Death Metal somehow unretconned what 40 years worth of DC comics established.

It's oddly insulting to point out obvious DC history to snivelling schmucks who act like they're the arbiters of DC history. Especially those who cannot even answer a basic yes or no question that utterly dismantles their position.

It's called prevarication. And three pages of it is about just enough. [/B]

You just say it isn't canon without proving.

Edit
Plus, didn't the Authority actually refer to adventures that Superman had around in 1940s? So going by your logic, COIE's retcon gets (re)retconed

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
And I would call this is a denial/igonring your debater's point

Continue sitting there stupified in the sh1t-mound of your own making.

Your dumba$$ thought you could escape the simple queston:

"qwertyuiop1998 thinks current Superman started his career in the 1940s"

Yes or no?

Originally posted by ODG
The phucking irony.

Continue sitting there stupified in the sh1t-mound of your own making.

Your dumba$$ thought you could escape the simple queston:

[b]"qwertyuiop1998 thinks current Superman started his career in the 1940s"

Yes or no? [/B]

Let's set aside the trolling for the moment and be constructive -- there's only two propositions here:

1) You're arguing that the sliding timescale that both Marvel and DC comics industry enjoy somehow un-retcons all the famous retcons that DC comics has undergone because of a tagline from Death Metal...?

OR

2) You're continuing to feign argument because you're a little b1tch.

I think both are true. In which case, oof. Sucks to be you.