Originally posted by ODG
Let's set aside the trolling for the moment and be constructive -- there's only two propositions here:[b]1)
You're arguing that the sliding timescale that both Marvel and DC comics industry enjoy somehow un-retcons all the famous retcons that DC comics has undergone because of a tagline from Death Metal...?
[/B]
Yes, I would go for it.
I also don't think I would like being an angry person who continues insulting others on the internet. So using your words: It would suck to be you
Originally posted by ODG
[b]"qwertyuiop1998 thinks current Superman started his career in the 1940s"Yes or no?
I dunno. How much more can qwertyuiop1998 ignore such a simple binary question???
As much as his hollow semblance of a fragile ego allows I suppose. kinda [/B]
It's like multiple pages ago....It seems you aren't paying attention to our discusssion
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Yes, it's irony. Since I already answered you question. He has adventures in 1940s etc because the comic book time concept.
But you constantly dodging such explanation(which pointed out in comics)Edit:
Also if you want to make this "X character starts at that time period doesn't make sense, so it isn't the same character" argument
I can start a thread and ask the opinions of mods
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998Ain't changing nothing to suit your bruised ego.
Let's change this to
But if you want to keep feigning like this is an actual debate, then you must answer this challenge that has been posed to you from the very start:
"qwertyuiop1998 thinks current Superman started his career in the 1940s"
Yes or no?
Just answer yes or no. Or just stfu like you should've done 4-5 pages ago when you knew you couldn't answer said question honestly... because even you, in all your delusions, could not confront the abject logistical conundrum that would dismantle your entire campaign.
No... you would have to flee and prevaricate for pages upon pages. Stand up for yourself or don't. 👇
Originally posted by ODG
Ain't changing nothing to suit your bruised ego.But if you want to keep feigning like this is an actual debate, then you must answer this challenge that has been posed to you from the very start:
[b]"qwertyuiop1998 thinks current Superman started his career in the 1940s"
Yes or no?
Just answer yes or no. Or just stfu like you should've done 4-5 pages ago when you knew you couldn't answer said question honestly. [/B]
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Yes, it's irony. Since I already answered you question. He has adventures in 1940s etc because the comic book time concept.
But you constantly dodging such explanation(which pointed out in comics)Edit:
Also if you want to make this "X character starts at that time period doesn't make sense, so it isn't the same character" argument
I can start a thread and ask the opinions of mods
Originally posted by ODG
There you have it folks. qwertyuiop1998 thinks current Superman started his career in the 1940s because of a tagline that said "one timeline where everything matters". D1s ph@cking clown...
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998Oh, pretend like you already solved the crucial thorn in your argument. That's like quanchilogic101.
Dumbo...I already answered it like pages ago....
So do us all a favor and let us know now:
"qwertyuiop1998 thinks current Superman started his career in the 1940s"
Yes or no?
Originally posted by ODG
Oh, pretend like you already solved the crucial thorn in your argument. That's like quanchilogic101.
But I couldn't be bothered to parse through all the little b1tch-made posts you made pages and pages past.
So Crisis on Infinite Earths and the subsequent stories like Infinite Crisis that actually made it very clear: Superman-2 and Hippolyta were retconned as being the Superman and Wonder Woman that were active during WW2...
... you are arguing that Death Metal un-retconned that? And that current Superman had all those adventures during WW2????
Originally posted by ODG
So Crisis on Infinite Earths and the subsequent stories like Infinite Crisis that actually made it very clear: Superman-2 and Hippolyta were retconned as being the Superman and Wonder Woman that were active during WW2...... you are arguing that Death Metal un-retconned that? m And that current Superman had all those adventures during WW2????
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
It gets undone by Death Metal, sorryhttps://www.dc.com/comics/infinite-frontier-2021/infinite-frontier-1
When our heroes saved the Multiverse from Perpetua in Dark Nights: Death Metal, everything was put back where it belonged...and we do mean everything. *All the damage from all the Crises was undone*, and heroes long thought gone returned from whatever exile they had been in.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Edit
Plus, didn't the Authority actually refer to adventures that Superman had around in 1940s? So going by your logic, COIE's retcon gets (re)retconed
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Interesting that DC once more showcases that everything is canon - the Ultra Humanite directly references the Purple Plague (Action Comics #19, 1940) and the Atomic Disintegrator (plus multiple bodies, Action Comics #21, 1940):Superman and the Authority #4, 2021:
Action Comics #19, 1940:
Action Comics #21, 1940:
Originally posted by ODG
Like, I can be a jerk and a smarta$$ but no matter what, nobody can make you think and pose such stupid arguments. You have nobody to blame but yourself, mang.Be content in your self-contained echo chamber. Hopefully nobody else on KMC is contaminated by your asininity.
Originally posted by Galan007
I am currently of the opinion that everything in DC's published history is now canon and therefore up for grabs -- most material seems to paint that picture.But yeah, if you don't want the 'composite canon' thing to be used, just specify a particular version of the character in the OP.
Originally posted by -Pr-
In all seriousness, I agree with Galan for the most part. People just need to state the version in the OP.
Edit:
And if you want, we can even continue this discussion on said thread or start a new thread to discuss
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Based on multiple official material? Yes
Welp. There you have it folks. qwertyuiop1998 has declared that a throwaway line during Death Metal has retconned both Crisis on Infinite Earths and Infinite Crisis. There was never a Superman-2.
No, indeed, current Superman emerged during the 1940s and had all those Superman-2 adventures??? Clearly, even current Lois carries the greatest generation persona.. ????
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998Oh go phuck your mother's anus with a cactus. Ain't no way we're spilling this embarrassment of your's into other threads.
And if you want, we can even continue this discussion on said thread or start a new thread to discuss
It's a goddamned disgrace that I've dignified it for this long here. barker
Originally posted by ODG
There was never a Superman-2.
Plus, your initial argument isn't asking the Earth-1 Superman(the guy I posted in the scans) and the mainline Superman is the same person?
I don't see the relation between these scans and 1940s or Superman-2 argument
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Multiple times
For example
https://ibb.co/G2QG4qs
https://ibb.co/FbC66ph
Originally posted by ODG
^ I thought you were referring to post-Crisis Superman. nvm
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
1) Aren't the two are the same character after Death Metal?
2) Doesn't Byrne Era Superman also tank a nuclear that sends him through time unharmed?
Originally posted by ODG
[b]1) Are they?
2) Post the scan, or issue # or, if you have neither, the storyline. [/B]
Originally posted by ODG
Oh go phuck your mother's anus with a cactus. Ain't no way we're spilling this embarrassment of your's into other threads.It's a goddamned disgrace that I've dignified it for this long here. barker
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998Doomsday Clock answered the question that reality keeps creating new alternate universes to account for much of the sliding timelines, i.e., each timeline was accorded it's own alternate reality. Which would actually disprove your constant excuses about sliding timelines.
Doesn't the Doomsday Clock answered the question?
But, no. Your dumba$$ goes farther than that and acts like Death Metal undid all of that. After all, Death Metal happened after Doomsday Clock, you imbecile.
Stop trying to backtrack. Your idiocy is well-documented. You (i) grasped onto a throwaway tagline from a promotion of Death Metal that stated "one timeline where everything matters", (ii) ignored it's actual follow-up in Infinite Frontier #0 that showed an infinite multiverse of alternate universes existed, (iii) pretended that every Superman feat from the 1940s-forward was citable for current Superman, (iv) which means you un-retconned Crisis on Infinite Earths, Infinite Crisis, New 52, Flashpoint, etc. from DC canon.
At some point, you might think I'm the anti-DC poster here... but I'm not the one trying to ignore the past 40 years of DC publishing history, pal.
Originally posted by ODG
Doomsday Clock answered the question that reality keeps creating new alternate universes to account for much of the sliding timelines, i.e., each timeline was accorded it's own alternate reality. Which would actually disprove your constant excuses about sliding timelines.But, no. Your dumba$$ goes farther than that and acts like Death Metal undid all of that. After all, Death Metal happened after Doomsday Clock, you imbecile.
Stop trying to backtrack. Your idiocy is well-documented. You [b](i)
grasped onto a throwaway tagline from a promotion of Death Metal that stated "one timeline where everything matters", (ii) ignored it's actual follow-up in Infinite Frontier #0 that showed an infinite multiverse of alternate universes existed, (iii) pretended that every Superman feat from the 1940s-forward was citable for current Superman, (iv) which means you un-retconned Crisis on Infinite Earths, Infinite Crisis, New 52, Flashpoint, etc. from DC canon.At some point, you might think I'm the anti-DC poster here... but I'm not the one trying to ignore the past 40 years of DC publishing history, pal. [/B]
Uh..no, your Infinite Frontier argument also gets countered by the one timeline scan. Plus, why existing alternative universes disproves one timeline?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85The Lois that existed in the 1940s was part of Superman-2's universe. As clearly shown in all the stories since Crisis on Infinite Earths and punctuated by Infinite Crisis and Doomsday Clock.
Is the argument that Lois in no way is able to be around in the 40s because that would make her like super old?
qwertyuiop1998, however, is trying to pretend that Death Metal unified every timeline into a single one based on a throwaway ad tagline. But he cannot reconcile that neither current Superman, nor current Lois emerged during the 1940s if that were truly the case.
And for all of qwertyuiop1998's whining, he cannot escape the absurdity that his premise leads to, hence, avoiding answering my simple question for 5 pages before blowing his anus and spreading his sh1t all over this thread.
Originally posted by ODG
qwertyuiop1998, however, is trying to pretend that Death Metal unified every timeline into a single one based on a throwaway ad tagline. But he cannot reconcile that neither current Superman, nor current Lois emerged during the 1940s if that were truly the case.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Multiple times
For example
https://ibb.co/G2QG4qs
https://ibb.co/FbC66ph
Originally posted by ODG
^ I thought you were referring to post-Crisis Superman. nvm
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
1) Aren't the two are the same character after Death Metal?
2) Doesn't Byrne Era Superman also tank a nuclear that sends him through time unharmed?
Originally posted by ODG
[b]1) Are they?
2) Post the scan, or issue # or, if you have neither, the storyline. [/B]
Edit:
I.E, this whole argument started as I posted scans of Earth-1 Superman
You odg demands me to prove they're same person, and brought up 1940s and Earth-2 Superman(who has nothing to do with the scans) as a counter...