Also interesting that Superman kills Darkseid by singing is mentioned in recent comics
https://ibb.co/D86Zzkm
https://ibb.co/59qzV9j
Also interesting that Superman kills Darkseid by singing is mentioned in recent comics
https://ibb.co/D86Zzkm
https://ibb.co/59qzV9j
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998I keep asking you if current Superman's career during WW2 still stands. Who are you to act like the shoe is on the other foot? I've been asking you whether current Superman started his career during the 1940s from the very start.
So you're running away. I guess that isn't much of a surprise
And you keep fleeing from that question.
Just answer it.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85There is no contention here. qwertyuiop1998 wants to act like decades old feats stand as they were originally presented. Then when industry-wide retcons are assessed, those selective feats still stand because "one timeline where everything matters". But even he cites a moving timeline where things are clearly retconned. D1s dumba$$ started arguing against himself.
What's the contention here? I thought comics always operated on this weird sliding timescale, so kids can pick a comic up and relate to the characters i.e. Spidey and MJ in their original showings dress and talk like they're teenagers in the 60s, Batman is off to watch Zorro from the 30s/40s, Banner and Rick Jones are young guys in the 60s etc?
My fault? Maybe. excellent
Originally posted by ODG
I keep asking you if current Superman's career during WW2 still stands. Who are you to act like the shoe is on the other foot? I've been asking you whether current Superman started his career during the 1940s from the very start.And you keep fleeing from that question.
Just answer it. There is no contention here. qwertyuiop1998 wants to act like decades old feats stand as they were originally presented. Then when industry-wide retcons are assessed, those selective feats still stand because "one timeline where everything matters". But even he cites a moving timeline where things are clearly retconned. D1s dumba$$ started arguing against himself.
My fault? Maybe. excellent
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
As for the timeline part, why not let the guy(Scott Snyder) who made "everything happened" explain to you?
Timestamped:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQAGmBZPhdQ&t=4648s"Both happned, both can be referenced"
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Originally posted by ODG
I've asked this several pages ago. You can keep running away from it. But it's inevitable. You must answer it:[b]"qwertyuiop1998 thinks current Superman started his career in the 1940s"
Yes or no? [/B]
Like I said before, you basically just repeating babbling about "these feats get retconned, even though I don't have direct proofs, but I feel it gets retconned!!!"
Just for (another)reference
In World's Finest Comics 271, it makes a direct reference to Lois Lane 12
https://ibb.co/K9bbZBR
And we've a good idea for the time period of this story(at least, for the year it occured)
https://ibb.co/rcTw1GQ
Yet, in Lois Lane 12, Hawaii entered into the US(I.E it is around 1959)
https://ibb.co/kmYyfW1
I.E, using the time period as a proof to say something gets(entirely) retconned is very iffy in comics. At best, you can prove that the time period it happens gets retconned, but the whole story gets retconned? It can't prove such notion
Originally posted by ODG
So declare your answer:[b]"qwertyuiop1998 thinks current Superman started his career in the 1940s"
Yes or no?
What are you so afraid of? [/B]
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Do you think floating timeline doesn't exist in comics, yes or no? 🙂
We can continue using questions answer questions game.
Repost this again
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Just for (another)reference
In World's Finest Comics 271, it makes a direct reference to Lois Lane 12
https://ibb.co/K9bbZBRAnd we've a good idea for the time period of this story(at least, for the year it occured)
https://ibb.co/rcTw1GQYet, in Lois Lane 12, Hawaii entered into the US(I.E it is around 1959)
https://ibb.co/kmYyfW1I.E, using the time period as a proof to say something gets(entirely) retconned is very iffy in comics. At best, you can prove that the time period it happens gets retconned, but the whole story gets retconned? It can't prove such notion
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998This is quintessential retardation. Nothing less. I expected better from you. But then again, I remember the last five conversations we've had where your asininity atrophied the collective intelligence of KMC as a whole.
Why it sounds like you're afraid of acknowledging the comic book time exists in comics?
Maybe because once you acknowledged it, your whole argument about 1940s period would fall apart?
You can pretend that we're arguing about floating timelines but that is a complete strawman.
It's a strawman because the genesis of our conversation was whether pre-Crisis timelines were canon to current characters.
You argued that Death Metal made everything count. Indeed you kept posting about how Death Metal made it so there was "one timeline where everything matters".
It didn't. If it did, then current Superman started his career in the 1940s.
That you cannot reconcile that notion outwardly, let alone within your own mind, just evinces what a pitiful troll you are. N1gga plz.
Originally posted by ODG
This is quintessential retardation. Nothing less. I expected better from you. But then again, I remember the last five conversations we've had where your asininity atrophied the collective intelligence of KMC as a whole.You can pretend that we're arguing about floating timelines but that is a complete strawman.
It's a strawman because the genesis of our conversation was whether pre-Crisis timelines were canon to current characters.
You argued that Death Metal made everything count.
It didn't. If it did, then current Superman started his career in the 1940s.
That you cannot reconcile that notion outwardly, let alone within your own mind, just evinces what a pitiful troll you are. N1gga plz.
And once you don't have it, you only just throwing tantrum at this point.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998Not my argument, pal. You argued Death Metal made everything canon. A floating timeline just destroys your own original contention.
But your argument for the pre-crisis characters aren't canon, is based on an argument that would gets countered by floating time
Bottom-line is, with all your random pre-Crisis scans that nobody gives a sh1t about, you want to rely on implied floating timelines but ignore explicit actual retcons.
Why exactly are you so desperate to reach back towards such old, random, retconned feats? Are we going to pretend Superman isn't the most widely published superhero since Crisis on Infinite Earths and doesn't have a wealth of current feats to choose from?
But if you reject such notion, then again... what exactly is your major malfunction here?
Originally posted by ODG
but ignore explicit actual retcons.
Like I said before
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
But your argument for the pre-crisis characters aren't canon, is based on an argument that would get countered by floating timeAnd once you don't have it, you only just throwing tantrum at this point.
Originally posted by ODG
Crisis on Infinite Earths #1-12 you unmitigated moron.
When our heroes saved the Multiverse from Perpetua in Dark Nights: Death Metal, everything was put back where it belonged...and we do mean everything. *All the damage from all the Crises was undone*, and heroes long thought gone returned from whatever exile they had been in.